tlees Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 need help! most of the wiring done buy previous owner but still needs to be completed if anybody knows what theyre doing with this conversion cold they let me know and il post some pictures up for you to see.. not easy driving in the dark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlees Posted August 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 really could do with some help here, has no one done a gti light conversion on a lupo with standard lights? really could do with some lights! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 You know this will fail the MOT from january dont you? I assume you arent wiring in the levelling kit and washers anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 I've done it t'other way round a fair few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlees Posted August 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 clueless to that mate il have to make sure i get a full years mot before january then! would you be able to give me some advice, apparently there needs to be some wiring fron the lights switch to somewhere under the steering wheel? previous owner had already started this so not a clue how it went, wiring is not my forte! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 indicators?Right, find a thin brown and a thin black/white wire on the passenger side, on your loom they lead to the front indicators, seperate them out and attach them to the ones on the GTI headlight loom.Same for the other side but replace white/back with green/black.Tell me when you've done this and the indicators are working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlees Posted August 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 no mate indicators are working fine, apparently for the headlights to work the wiring needs to be completed at the switch to what looks like somewhere under the steering column, (il check this tomoro) my sidelights are working fine and apparently the wiring at the headlights have been completed. i know im not being very helpful but this is all i know! by the way thankyou for your help so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 are the indicators the stock ones or the GTI ones ?And when you say sidelights, can you tell me where your sidelights are ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 The GTI headlights need an extra earth wiring in (to pin 8 of the TDI headlamp socket), and pins 2 & 8 need swapping in the xenon plug.I've left the indicators in the standard position by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 So where are your sidelights?Give you a top down hairdresser car race? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Haven't got any bulbs at the moment, but they will be in the bottom of the Xenon unit. Who needs sidelights anyway? Are you bringing the cab to edition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Sidelights are overrated. Think I'm going to copy Mitch and put Kam's in the 3l grille bits.Think for edition I may just shotgun in Kam's loop, if I go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlees Posted September 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 rich, went to take some pics of the wiring for the headlights but couldnt really make the subtle differences in wires so il just list them instead and hope you know what im talking about!on the headlights the wiring goes like this1 white2 brown3 thick yellow (seems to be an addition and goes either to an earth or wired into the car, think its earthed though) also similar wire being added and comes from near the steering column and is not attached to anything , not had it apart to fing out exactly where it goes yet)4 thin yellow5 brown and blue6 red and blue7 thin yellow (like 4)8 green and yellowthere is also a thin yellow wire coming from the back of the lights switch, again not attached to anything.the previous headlight connecters at the headlights have been changed to fit the new lights and the sidelights in the headlights work fine im just without the normal beam or high beam. i can however hear the mecanical im guessing flap in the headlights when i flash the high beam stalk?if you can make sense of the info i could really do with some advice, thanks in advance and for your help so far!p.s. i also have some pictures if you think they will help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlees Posted September 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 any advice anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspor Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 any advice anybody?I will look for you tomorrow, i have a TDi, and i have put GTi lights in it, although i have connected the indicators up to the ones in the GTi light cluster. Tell me what you want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Best thing you can do is get hold of Elsawin; it has all the wiring diagrams with the wire colours. I can't check my lights as I'm offshore at the moment but all I've done so far is what I wrote above, plus wired the stalk up like an Arosa/Lupo GTI so the dipped doesn't go off when you go onto high beam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlees Posted September 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 ok thanks for your responses guys, jon im going to have a go at what you said and see if i can get any success, il update you when ive done with my progress, thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzerman Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Wait a sec, are you fitting these gti lights and just not having a full beam? or have i read this wrong, casue to my knowledge, TDI's have the same indicator placements as the none gti's..... so you're going to be running blanks or filling the indicators over, and just having the indicators inside the gti lights. and yeah mot failure as they need to be levelling and they need to have the spray washer thing tooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW Lupo 3L Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 On 9/16/2011 at 6:46 PM, jon_273 said: Best thing you can do is get hold of Elsawin; it has all the wiring diagrams with the wire colours. I can't check my lights as I'm offshore at the moment but all I've done so far is what I wrote above, plus wired the stalk up like an Arosa/Lupo GTI so the dipped doesn't go off when you go onto high beam. A bit of a resurrection... but please could someone fill me in on the mod that's carried out the stalk that allows the bulb to stay on when high beam is selected? MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 There are three wires under the steering column for the headlights and a two-way switch in the stalk. On a non-GTI lupo the supply comes from the headlight switch to the switch in the indicator stalk which you operate to divert the current to either the dipped or high beam circuit. I disconnected the dipped circuit wire and connected it to the supply to the indicator stalk switch, so that the dipped circuit stays powered regardless of the position of the indicator stalk. This allows you to have dipped and high beam circuits powered at the same time (if you had the standard headlights, both filaments would be powered). What that means, is that if you have installed GTI xenons into a non-GTI, you can use your high beam(i.e. operate the solenoids which control the flap inside the headlight) when your dipped beam (normal headlights) are switched on. What you still won't be able to do is 'flash' people when the headlight switch it turned off. You need to install a relay for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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