Milly Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Hello,Wondering if you could put a figure on this for me.Performance pannel filter, 4-2-1 raceland manifold, sports cat, full scorpion cat back system and a remap.BHP and torque figures if anyone knows?? what other easyish mods are there that can give good gains??Thanks alot - Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusgrant Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 150bhp ish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperWeight1 Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 140-145 maybe, depends on the rollers and what losses are used etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusgrant Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Dan on here got 135 or 137 and that was with out a remap... decated though, not sports cat. increase in torque to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanSN117 Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Yeah Bwoi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty_82 Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Bhp is just a number , how it performs as a whole car is more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperWeight1 Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Bhp is just a number , how it performs as a whole car is more important.Be quiet son, we want to talk pub figures.If you keep backchatting I'l slap a flying gogoplata on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty_82 Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 (edited) Ive dreamt of pulling one of those off , i can do flying omaplatas, armbars and triangles though :shades: :shades: Pub figures you say though , im going to slap mine out on the table for a measure and say 155 bhp :lol: Edited June 15, 2010 by scotty_82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperWeight1 Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Flying armbar is all I've managed. I'm not agile enough to do anything else Inverted triangle would be sick but alas I've never managed to get one (other than saying to someone stand here and put your arm here, then doing it. That doesn't count ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philplop Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Yeah, 145ish tops, I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 350-400bhp I reckon. About 700nm Torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty_82 Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Richie you missed the grapplefit north east grappling comp , it was a dam good event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milly Posted June 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Dan on here got 135 or 137 and that was with out a remap... decated though, not sports cat. increase in torque toIve been told that a de-cat looses too much back pressure and reduces the torque... so a sports cat is better??Thanks - Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperWeight1 Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Not really to do with 'back pressure', that's just something that gets banded around by people who know nothing about exhausts (most of the time).You'll more than likely lose torque, that's correct.Sports cats can be better than the standard item. It depends which sports cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbeth! Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Not really to do with 'back pressure', that's just something that gets banded around by people who know nothing about exhausts (most of the time).You'll more than likely lose torque, that's correct.Sports cats can be better than the standard item. It depends which sports cat.Why will you lose torque then if its nothing to do with back pressure and is less of a restriction? Just out of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 isnt back pressure more to do with 2 stroke engines as it uses the exhaust as a second chamber, were as in four stroke an exhaust is not as important(but stil important) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperWeight1 Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Why will you lose torque then if its nothing to do with back pressure and is less of a restriction? Just out of interest?Google David Vizard exhaust design, he has a book (a few) which are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunid-brake Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 id say its probably about 65bhp 2nm torque, potential 0-62 of 4 days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusgrant Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Ive been told that a de-cat looses too much back pressure and reduces the torque... so a sports cat is better??Thanks - AndrewPeople on here say that you will loose torque. Dan and mark who have both had decats will argue that you dontDan has a graph to prove it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperWeight1 Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 People on here say that you will loose torque. Dan and mark who have both had decats will argue that you dontDan has a graph to prove it too Lose torque where? 99% of decatted small N/A engines with minimal mods will lose mid range torque which is where it's needed. I have experience of larger engines (1.8's and 2.0's) and they've all lost some mid range but gained higher up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusgrant Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Lose torque where? 99% of decatted small N/A engines with minimal mods will lose mid range torque which is where it's needed. I have experience of larger engines (1.8's and 2.0's) and they've all lost some mid range but gained higher up.Duno where lolI know nothing about this subjuct really, my point is mearly that Dan and mark have had a decat (one on a GTI and and the other a sport) and havent said a bad word about them.Think dan said his graph showed an increase in torque thoughout the range, he does have a few other breathing mods though i think........ probably best if they comment rather than me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scotty_82 Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Was a run done before and after the decat to compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanSN117 Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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