Scottish_Sport_16V Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Hey guys good news for me been down to msw (www.motorsportworld.co.uk)I know one of these guys personaly so i know the information below is genuinThey do a power chip that garentees you car a extra `8-10bhp` for 150. (http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/`power-chips`.htmAlso soon as i have enuff saved up im ordering pipers ultimate road cam kit for just under £300 its 12bhp hike(http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/detProd.asp?ProductCode=`KBVP285H-BL`&PID=318817)Then im gonna get the head ported and polished not sure of what power gain u get with that? with a decent induction system what sorta break am i expectin if the chip truly does give u `8-10bhp`?I have the money for the chip the now thikn i shud get ir or save another 150 n get cams first?now i just need to keep savin like feck he he heP.s getting BMW 325 2.5L straight 6 for nout for some drifitng action 170bhp woohoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinA3 Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 i like the idea of this chip for £180 fittedi might go for it to see what the power increase isthey say its fitted in cheshire which is good as i am in cheshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish_Sport_16V Posted September 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 yeah sounds good m8 if u do can u let me know how u get on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGTI Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 that sounds ok for the money.....if either of u get it please post to say how it goes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish_Sport_16V Posted September 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 I might be getitg cams in time for the 3rd of oct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArosaMike Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 That'd be a crazy `130-140bhp`! LOL Would be good if you got that though style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArosaMike Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 Looking at the cam page.....you do realise that with really high performance cams it's gonna be a bitch to drive. Power band is up to 7200rpm and with long duration cams like that you get a really lumpy idle. Fair enough if that's what you want, but it'll be really hard to drive around town and will probably drink petrol. IMO, if you still want your car as a daily driver I would suggest a fast road cam. That'll give you 8bhp but will maintain the drivability. I know it's called an ultimate road cam but it would be a pain day to day.Also....are you sure those cams are for our engine. On the Piper website it say's suitable for G40 engine.....is that not a much older engine? I could be chatting crap about that, but best make sure style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> It also says you need a separate electric fuel pump as the new cams don't have a fuel pump lobe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinA3 Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 you can get cams for the 16v engine but they are like £`500-600` as you need 2 of them as its a 16v, G40 engines are 8v. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArosaMike Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 QUOTE(robinA8OLO)you can get cams for the 16v engine but they are like £`500-600` as you need 2 of them as its a 16v, G40 engines are 8v.I'm guessing those are the ones that are on the Piper site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinA3 Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 yeahschrik (sp) do some as wellif you do get cams then to get the most use out of them you have to have the head port and polishedcoz the cams are opening the valves more but the air flow might be crap due to restriction in the head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neiler Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Get the chip in first... But you do realise to optimise the cams and their timing you are going to need to set the car up properly dont you ?I dont kno what spec your car is mate. But i would go for the induction kit, full exhaust system, manifold, then go for head work, cams etc. I would get a N/A petrol car chipped or remapped when required by installing cams. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 you would chip the car by getting cams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 IMO a chip and Cams aren't gonna be connected are they?Id say the main thing that needs doing is the Head, as Robin says, the air flow needs sorting out before you can optimise the fuel flow.Id have said a chip should be the last thing to be done surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 yes agreed, no point chipping then `re-mapping` when cams installed.also. lets go back to insurance issues and whether you will ever get *that* much out of a 1.4 without spending serious money, when it becomes silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 I think realisticly you can probably get 125bhp out of the sport for a grand.They are very tunable for a VW engine with plenty of parts avalable.A moddified BMC, zaust, manifold, cams, heads inlet ported & polished and remap should give you 125bhp of usable power.To get any more the car wouldnt be any use as a daily driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 if u can get all that for a grand then its worth it - you still going for a 1.4 andi?also hows the bathroom, any luck with mine? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Still not 100% what to go for yet Tim. But as more time goes by the 1.4 seems the best choice for me.Im not skilled enough to be messing around with the 1.8tthe diffrence between the 1.4 and 1.6 aint huge, but the parts avalble for the 1.6 and the weight of it, is putting me off.I guess if you cant drive very well a 1.8T is great as you can go fast in a straight line... Im just not convinced that the extra spped on the straights, would warrent losing a very quick cornering car for.Theres plenty of time to change my mind again though lolNo bathroom yet, to tell you the truth, the guy is pissing me off as he still hasnt come to finish my fence, been two weeks now, and I dont like it when people take the piss like he has.I'll let you know, once I see him :s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neiler Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 ROTFL guys dont be stupid, chip to enable the cams to be uses properly ie should be installed at the same time.If you read my message you will see that i mentioned sorting the air flow before anything else.Silly as it seems plenty of people chip or remap their car before they install cams, generally it costs a alot less to remap once you have done it. ie alot of companies charge £50 after the first map.Any other silly comments :S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 ummmm no, not right now.i am still not bored of my BMC, but still havent sorted out pipework properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 But if the headwork and cams are done together, a remap (in theory) shouldnt be needed to make the cams "work", as the standard ECU will see these changes and adapt.A chip isnt such an important thing if the real work is done correctly as your ECU should work out the new fuel/air flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neiler Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 I think Jetex make a system for the TDI, as to wether its good im not sure.... Still i doubt it would be much on the sealed BMC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 QUOTE(Tigz)A chip isnt such an important thing if the real work is done correctly as your ECU should work out the new fuel/air flow.Bear in mind that the ECU has quite strict limits as standard as to the maximum allowed fuel and air flow. Modifying the maps can overcome this, and without doing that, the ECU is likely to be limiting the amount of airflow that it allows into the engine, and could even cause the engine to start running lean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 look at Rossheard his car is like a bag of cheap spanners since the cams went in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Makes sense, but I wouldnt have thought the diffrence we be great enough to worry about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 QUOTE(tdwindustries)look at Rossheard his car is like a bag of cheap spanners since the cams went inNo head works been done as yet though has it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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