LiamD Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 The UP! and that thing is horrible ugly tat. Argument settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clairey Fairy Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 mods can you delete the posts from people confusing the new chico with the old one. there is no argument here. please read the thread properly before commenting.Nobody here is confused mate, we all know that the picture i posted was of the old Chico circa 1990ish iirc. There is also no argument either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clairey Fairy Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Thanks for announcing your presence to the mods by reporting a post, Beach. We appriciate the help.Ah, i should of thought as much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clairey Fairy Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Haha, sorry mate no can do - he doesnt listen to me anymore Meanwhile, back on topic...Is this just a childish wind up or a re VW really producing a new car? Coz i love the new Rocco, and so far the Mk6 is looking fine - so another new dub (Chico or not) could be a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyW Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 With beach, sorry, lupolot, anythings possible.Back on topic, I think VW's venture back into the true small car arena will have to be a hit, cars like the new KA, 500 and others are just too good. Even the current Panda is better built and better designed to fit its need than the Fox ever was, and that Panda is due a replacement fairly soon.Whatever VW come up with will have to be effective, and I'm actually quite optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 i didnt know it had a problem in cross winds, do you have a link? or are you referring to the test cars which were rear engined? these had stability issues in cross winds. but the up is front engined now.yup, older rear engines ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougless Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Yup economy...5" smaller wheels = quicker rolling radius...otherwise known as the engine doesn't have to work as hard to spin the wheels.Small wheels = Economy...get it right VW!!!And what do you mean its not to do with stability in cross winds? The VW Up! is a big FAIL because it can't handle cross winds...I was merely stating the obvious to VW.Why are small wheels more economical, have you not heard of gearing? If you do some research, you will find that there are more advantages to larger wheels apart from the increase in unsprung weight.You seem very well informed about the UP. Rear engined cars sometimes have issues in cross winds however I think VW have abandoned the rear engined concept with the UP which is a great shame IMO. Sod the cross winds, there are real advantages to rear engined vehicles, quieter, less complex transmission (no issues with steering the driven wheels), power to the driven wheels at the right end (when vehicles accelerate the CofG transfers to the rear which favours rear wheel drive). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 (edited) Why are small wheels more economical, have you not heard of gearing? If you do some research, you will find that there are more advantages to larger wheels apart from the increase in unsprung weight.Gearing makes a difference yes...that's why my 3 cylinder Polo can barely achieve 20mph in 1st gear without revving the timing chain off it. We all know that smaller wheels require less work from the engine to turn...and going from typical 14" wheels to an 18" alloy is not the best of things nor the cheapest of things. 14" steels would do the trick and is cost effective. Or you could put 18" wheels on it and call it a Lupo 4x4. That and how expensive are 18" tyres compared to 14" tyres?As I have said many times above...I was merely pointing out the obvious of things. No need to imply I'm thick...research boy. Edited November 25, 2008 by Niche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris260 Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Anyway.... turns out Beach was right.Chico Info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDGM Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Gearing makes a difference yes...that's why my 3 cylinder Polo can barely achieve 20mph in 1st gear without revving the timing chain off it. We all know that smaller wheels require less work from the engine to turn...and going from typical 14" wheels to an 18" alloy is not the best of things nor the cheapest of things. 14" steels would do the trick and is cost effective. Or you could put 18" wheels on it and call it a Lupo 4x4. That and how expensive are 18" tyres compared to 14" tyres?As I have said many times above...I was merely pointing out the obvious of things. No need to imply I'm thick...research boy.Wheel diameter alone is nothing to do with it. It's all about the rolling radius of the tyre and the final drive of the gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeylupo Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 http://www.eurocarblog.com/post/495/volksw...brio-e-sciroccothats i link to a picture of the new lupo and other new vws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 http://www.eurocarblog.com/post/495/volksw...brio-e-sciroccothats i link to a picture of the new lupo and other new vwsI saw this link....many many months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamD Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Nice... if you like AIDS and Renaults Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDGM Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Nice... if you like AIDS and Renaults I think that that is easier on the eye than the Up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Yup economy...5" smaller wheels = quicker rolling radius...otherwise known as the engine doesn't have to work as hard to spin the wheels.Small wheels = Economy...get it right VW!!!You don't half come out with some good ones Thankfully, VW have a much better grasp of engineering than you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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