payna Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 right, iam thinking about getting some decent brakes for my gti, for a couple of reasons;1 - i want good stoppers2 - because iam sick of cleaning dust off my wheels!3 - my front discs seem a bit unevenly wornpossibly thinking of cross drilled discs, are there any cross drilled discs available for the front end? ive looked around but cant find any. and also what do you lot think would be a good set of pads to buy?any likes to other websites would be good too!thanksandrew :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 IMO the car is light and doesn't need cross drilled brakes. All you are doing is decreasing the amount of disk the pad can grip so if you drilled holes in your existing disks the stopping power would decrease. Helps to remove the heat though but warping disks doesn't seem to be a lupo problem. Better pads might be enough but if not a larger set off a last gen seat cupra would fit and look the danglies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payna Posted August 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 too be honest the only reason i was thinking about drilled discs was for the look really, nothing more. they are vented on the front anyway, but i think it looks pretty cool 8) i deffinatly want new pads though cos i dont think the ones that are on are too hot to start with, and they give off alot of dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArosaMike Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 QUOTE(Crusoe)IMO the car is light and doesn't need cross drilled brakes. All you are doing is decreasing the amount of disk the pad can grip so if you drilled holes in your existing disks the stopping power would decrease. Helps to remove the heat though but warping disks doesn't seem to be a lupo problem. Better pads might be enough but if not a larger set off a last gen seat cupra would fit and look the dangliesYou actually suggesting drilling holes in your existing discs! :shock: You really don't wanna ever do that! You'll weaken them seriously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Didn't Gargoil manage to warp his discs?Doubt you'll reduce the dust problem much - all brakes seem pretty bad now they've stopped being allowed to use asbestos in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payna Posted August 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 na i wouldnt drill the discs that are on the car, they are a bit unevenly worn so i thought if i buy new front discs i mite go for some cross drilled baby's cos they look damn good i reckon.yeah but surely theres gotta be a bit more friction from 'em as the 'catch the pad' so to speak - same as the grooved discs maybe?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neiler Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Grooved discs mite help, by de glazing the pads upon braking. Bare in mind u dont need a disc with 100 grooves. Discs with something like 6 should be available. Drilled discs are only there to allow the heat to disperse off the pad.Otherwise pair the discs with Stainless Braided Hoses. That should be a reasonable upgrade for reasonable ££. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 I bought EBC grooved & dimpled disks, with greenstuff pads.Took care to ease them in, and now they offer a big improvement on the standars brakes, which I thought were complete crap.The drilled EBC disks were meant to be weaker & warped easily, so the later ones are only dimpled.My only gripe with them is that after I really drove the car hard there was a fair bit of brake fade, but the good grip came back really soon once they cooled down. Maybe thats where the drilled disks would be an improvement.When I ordered them, the guy said they were the same as the disks for the corrado G60/VR6, cant quite remember, but that means there should be a fair bit of choice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payna Posted August 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 i had red dot fast road pads, and black diamond cross drilled discs on my last car, and once they had bedded in they were crap hot, but i found that every now and again, just doing a bit of heavy braking to get the glaze off them was fine....they even sounded good when braking aswell! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />iam not really likeing grooved discs, but like i say the only reason iam considering them is cos the fronts are a bit unevenly worn, and iam most probably getting new pads and drilled ones look really good, and might aswell replace those at the same time. so if i do make my mind up on getting new discs i would get some drilled ones if they are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty b-road Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 I find the standard brakes are OK for normal use, under `70-80mph`, but over 100 they just ain't good enough, and they fade to easy after repeated high speed brakingHave you had brake fade?Drilled disks are gonna help reduce that, but they are gonna chew up the up the pads at twice the rate as `non-drilled`, so if you've had fade then I'd get grooved as they are gonna help with fade but not eat the pads every 2000 miles.I've managed to warp both my standard front disks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LINCOLNSHIRESLUPOGTI Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Sorry, got back to work after a week off so real busy. However if you come see me at Trax ill explain what I did as I now have 280mm Rallye/G60 front brakes, drilled discs all round and Pagid pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Do those fit behind the Bathursts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Too big or stick out too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 with the disk and calipers (which is always a useful combo) they are too wide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 the brembos from the cupra fit straight on as long as you have wheels big enough to clear them, look great though. Braided hoses will improve feel and response as well as helping the heat from the brake fluid to dissipate. If it was me I’d change pads and hoses first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Yeah, I'd love the Ibiza Cupra brakes, but equally, I haven't found any wheels I like the look of more than the Bathursts style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=41005Not too bad for the brembo kit off the cupra R, about £500 with braided hoses. Nice set of 17s to show them off and it would look very tidy style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 17s would kill the power - 16s would be ideal, but only certain 16 inch wheels will fit over them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 just get more power style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />be hard to find 16s big enough, even the 17s on mine are convex to stick out beyond the front callipers, and only have a few mm to spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Dunno, I seem to remember a pretty big list of compatible 16 inch alloys being posted when I was active on SeatCupra.netAlthough I think people were getting in the region of `1-2mm` clearance style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 16s would make the brakes look even bigger, any pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payna Posted August 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 @ lincolnshire, i aint goin to trax but any info would be good.@ crusoe, iam keeping that bathursts so those are `no-no` for me really,it might just be me, but i think the standard stuff is pretty crap even at lower speeds. but thats cos i was used to stopping on a sixpence with my old car mind. do you reckon some good fluid would help too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 As I've said before, bigger brakes don't make you stop quicker. They give more feel to the brakes, mean you have to put less pressure on the brake pedal, and reduce fade.If you can lock the wheels with your current brakes, your limiting factor is not the brakes, it's the tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 QUOTE(Crusoe)16s would make the brakes look even bigger, any pics?Here's the SeatCupra.net thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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