lupedup Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 hey chaps my first thread so go easy please.... iv just got my self a lupo 1.4(75bhp) and i need some advice on the best performance mods exhaust cams remap etc etc..... i also want to get throttle bodies for the car any suggestions ???cheers.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
243 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Hi there,On that engine a remap would see only about 6-8bhp - so a bit expensive at about 400quid for the power increase.Could get an exhaust and air filter for it to make it breathe and sound better.The lupo sport the 1.4 100bhp model has uprated cams and a larger throttle body I believe, to give it the extra power over the 75bhp model.To be honest I think to get a lot more power out of the 75bhp engine would involve alot of cash, and would be cheaper to either buy a sport already at 100bhp and charge it or buy a gti, or 1.8t it or somethin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 If your looking to spend little money (manifold, decat, air filter, remap) that should see you near GTI power if you had a Lupo Sport.However if your want to spend real money and not chinese dim sums (all of the above + cams, throttle body) than you have the better car to start off with. Throttle body on the S is cable operated and not fly by wire like on the Sports which means you have a larger choice in throttle bodies. Unless of course your talking about having individual throttle bodies than you aren't talking dollars, you're talking british pounds.And bear in mind that the Sport is higher spec all around (rear disc brakes), Arosa Sport is a bit of a spoilt bitch as you get much more for your money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lauryn Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Out of interest, what kinda increase in bhp should you expect from a BMC CDA in a Lupo Sport? Sorry to spam, no point in starting a whole new thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 There are some Polo GTIs and Lupo Sports which had the larger throttle body but was still cable operated.Id find one of them if it was me, fit a raceland manifold and get the ECU remapped.Id be very supprised if you didnt hit 100bhp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Out of interest, what kinda increase in bhp should you expect from a BMC CDA in a Lupo Sport? Sorry to spam, no point in starting a whole new thread!Some say a couple of HP, I think its bull poo, I think if you run your standard car on the rollers and then fitted the BMC I wouldn't think you'd see any increase.Been throwing down the gauntlet for years, no one ever takes it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 (edited) I had a stainless steel back box and pipercross filter put 10 bhp on my 1.4 16V 75bhp engine, RR a few months before mods at bang on standard 75. RR after mods with 84.6... I was amazed tbh! Same rollers too, at Midland VW. Edited September 12, 2008 by veedubdude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I need to see it with my own eyes on the same rollers, same day, same temp and tyre pressures. I'll belive a exhaust will help free up some horses, but I don't believe a air filter can give you anything more than a more exciting sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 The dude who works for Jabba, was his a 75hp?He got some great results with my Polo GTI manifold and remap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Throttle body on the S is cable operated and not fly by wire like on the Sports which means you have a larger choice in throttle bodies. .Who told you that? Im sure thats not right huh.gifAll lupos, no matter what engine, have a DBW system, providing they are not before (i think) around late 1999 early 2000 model year.Both my Arosas certainly have DBW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 All Lupo 75hp Lupos and 6N2 Polos had cable throttle bodies mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 All Lupo 75hp Lupos and 6N2 Polos had cable throttle bodies mate.Hmm, ive driven a 1.4 75 and it did im sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Hmm, ive driven a 1.4 75 and it did im sure I've never come across one, and Elsa doesn't give the option of DBW on this engine. There may be exceptions, my GTI engine in the Lupo had a cable throttle body. But the 75hp should have a cable throttle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Maybe most do, im not sure, i know around 2002 models do have DBW.Easiest way to check if you have DBW, is to drive along, and lightly press the brake with your left foot, if the engines power is cut then you have it, if not then you dont and you can left foot brake in future Dont worry, the engine picks back up again after your take your foot off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Even with a cable throttle, lighting up the brake light switch can cut the the engine power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Even with a cable throttle, lighting up the brake light switch can cut the the engine power.How does that work?I thought it was something with the DBW which was cut off when you press the brake. Cable throttle would link directly to the engine, and other than totally turning the engine off, i dont see how i can cut the power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 All Lupo 75hp Lupos and 6N2 Polos had cable throttle bodies mate.We have discussed this before many times. You are forgetting that there are many different engine codes for the 1.4 16v 75bhp, some have cable throttle and some are DBW.Year 2002 and onwards seem to use the BBY engine, these are all DBW. There is one sitting in my garage right now and Ill post pics of the DBW if you don't believe me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 How does that work?I thought it was something with the DBW which was cut off when you press the brake. Cable throttle would link directly to the engine, and other than totally turning the engine off, i dont see how i can cut the power?How could the throttle body put the car into safe mode?It's only a butterfly valve. The ECU tells the engine what to do, it works out there is a possible problem and attempts to protect the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 We have discussed this before many times. You are forgetting that there are many different engine codes for the 1.4 16v 75bhp, some have cable throttle and some are DBW.Year 2002 and onwards seem to use the BBY engine, these are all DBW. There is one sitting in my garage right now and Ill post pics of the DBW if you don't believe me Ah! That explains why there is no option for DBY on Elsa for my 75hp engine code.There you go then, larger cable throttle body for an older 75hp, and a later Sport DBW Throttle body for a newer 75hp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 you will need to use the manifold too as its matched to the body size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 How could the throttle body put the car into safe mode?It's only a butterfly valve. The ECU tells the engine what to do, it works out there is a possible problem and attempts to protect the engine.My technical knowledge running out yet again there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 (edited) Looking at the engine codes , AHW, AKQ, APE, AUA, BBY are all 75bhp 1.4 engines Back on topic, here is the guy who works for Jabba: http://forums.clublupo.co.uk/index.php?sho...c=32494&hl=http://forums.clublupo.co.uk/index.php?sho...32572&st=26 Edited September 12, 2008 by jon_273 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Good find Jon. Good thread guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupedup Posted September 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 what a massive help guys iv been that busy i havnt had time to reply iv got a coilover kit,manifold and guna put a rear cat sports box on it throttle bodies from badger 5 hmmmmm does anybody rate them been quoted about 2400 pound cheers chaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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