cardaft Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 It does seem to look similar doesnt it! Hopefully it will be a nice easy fit. Id love cruise on mine too, so im interested in the outcome of this. Have you figured out how to get the cruise working once you get the stalk?If only it was as easy as fitting to our caravelle, just fit, plug, program and play!Not sure how we can directly compare the two though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Some one on here as actually fitted the cruise control but without the stalk, so would be a case of asking which ports on the ecu do the connections go to i think its only 4 wires, BUT the lupo DOESNT have the loom so will have to add it but this is not a prob as it can be bought from a site that has been posted before......yes how do we compare without having to strip down the entire col....maybe i could email a seller on ebay whos currently breaking one hehe see if he could send me the pics, worth a shot i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaJetta Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Any new news on the Cruise Control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 no joy at the mo mate, still waiting on a couple of emails.all need is to compare the stalk connections but etos doesnt show the lupo connections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaJetta Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Ok. Thanks and Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Right, emailed about 10 companies on ebay and a few other places and no one seems to want to help. so tomorrow im goin to take my steering wheel off and just check my self as it seems to be the easiest option at the mo so hopefully will have a couple of pics up 2moz showing wots wots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Good luck with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 SUCCESS!!!!!!i think i have cracked it took all my indicator stalk of earlier and took a few pics and from i can seem there the same! which is a result.Got to get my ecu code then find out the numbers for the connections! will be ordering the stalk this weekend so should get it over the weekend "hopefully" all functions will be ok on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Thats very good news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niche Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Can't you just cough up a few hundred pounds and get AMD Technik to do it for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Can't you just cough up a few hundred pounds and get AMD Technik to do it for you?Well yes, but how OEM would it be!?Plus, you get satisfaction from doing things yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Because they dont, LOLi phoned them hoping to get some "advise" but they were like well its a very hard job that will take a long time because the loom isnt present ETC BLAH BLAH. The Guy i spoke to didnt actually say that he DONT do it but he wasnt saying that he would do mine and came across that they werent sure at all how to do it. Said something like the guy that tried it struggled to much so didnt finish it or something like that.also Why spend the £351.00 + Fuel to travel to Surrey, for them to "maybe" install it without the stalk? surely completeing and installing your self is better i belive that its much better as then i know how the job is done properly also only costs me in parts, fair enough you have to do alot of research which i still have got to do on the ecu part of things but once its done it will be GREAT knowing that i done it my self also cost me a 1/4 of the price as well! in a ideal world where i have not got to worry about the pennies then yes i would pay some one else to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Good work! I've been meaning to put cruise on mine for months now; in fact today I finally got round to doing the wiring from the ECU! It's actually not that hard if you've got a steady hand. The way to do it is exactly as 'Mr Biscuit' says in the other thread I'm going to test it with just a couple of push switches as soon as I get a vag-com cable to activate cruise control.As you can imagine I'm really interested to see whether the stalk fits... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Good work! I've been meaning to put cruise on mine for months now; in fact today I finally got round to doing the wiring from the ECU! It's actually not that hard if you've got a steady hand. The way to do it is exactly as 'Mr Biscuit' says in the other thread I'm going to test it with just a couple of push switches as soon as I get a vag-com cable to activate cruise control.As you can imagine I'm really interested to see whether the stalk fits...Thats good then, what year is you tdi as mine a 04 and was hoping that it will be the same as the other thread to wire in but was goin to check any chance of some pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Mines an 04 too (click my signature for readers rides). I've disassembled the ECU plug to remove the IDC terminals, made up a temporary loom, and in the morning I'm going to thread it through the bulkhead and put the new wires into the ECU plug. Ill take some pics for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Mines an 04 too (click my signature for readers rides). I've disassembled the ECU plug to remove the IDC terminals, made up a temporary loom, and in the morning I'm going to thread it through the bulkhead and put the new wires into the ECU plug. Ill take some pics for you Nice work Jon So, when we doing mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gazza Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Cardaft, you know that part Num you gave its a "kit" was wondering what you got in the kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) Just the stalk and i think it the lead to connect it to the existing wiring, as far as i can remember. Although i will say, we bought it from ebay, it was advertised as a caravelle cruise stalk, but the box is huge, so im not 100% sure if its the right box? What else does the part number description come up with?And by the sounds of it, we paid more than VW charge! Nothing new there then! Although a kit may just mean the stalk. Edited June 26, 2008 by cardaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) Cruise control wiring, take 1:Make up test loom including 2 random push-to-make switches you have lying around:Feed the wire through a hole in the bulkhead, above the clutch pedal. On the engine-bay side there is a large hole with a blank grommet, to the right of the master cylinder. here it is with the grommet removed:You can actually see light through this hole of you look carefully:There is actually another smaller hole to the left of this big hole, there was no blanking plug in it which I thought was odd, so I decided to feed the wire through there instead of cutting up the larger grommet.I chose to feed the wire through the rubber plug into the plenum chamber? under the scuttle panel. I removed some of the black tape to pierce the hole. I'll replace the tape to make it look neater after I've finished.Next I threaded the new loom through the existing plastic trunking for that factory finish look (it took a while!)Now remove the left hand ECU plug by sliding out the slider behind where the wires enter the plug (hard to explain but you'll know after you've done it once). Snip the black cable tie, then prise off the cover from the end where the wires enter. It should now look like this:Flip the plug over and remove the purple t-piece using a screwdriver, like in these pics:Pull this out taking care not to snap it:Gently pull on the top layer or wires to remove the plug. Insert a jewellers screwdriver as shown to straighten the retaining lug:Slide out the connector:Solder connections onto loom and insert them into the plug. The soldering isn't as bad as it looks, honestly!Now it should look something like this:Refit the cover on the plug and put everything back together. Make sure none of the wiring is anywhere near any hot or moving parts. On the other side in the car, I cable tied the loom to the wire that goes to the clutch pedal switch, to keep it away from the pedal mechanisms. The wire can be seen in the top left of this pic:Switches in temporary position in the dashboard:I just need to activate it with vag com, then I can test it EDIT: I activated it with vag-com using and it worked a treat Edited July 3, 2008 by jon_273 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 jon you had any luck mate? did you get vagcom to turn it on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 heres a couple of images of my installation of the stalkpicture to show how the colours change on the plug you get in the kitheres where i have left the cables while i suss a place to run them through to the ecu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardaft Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 It fits then! Nice work everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 It fits then! Nice work everyone!sure does fit just hope that when i wire the ecu up it will actually work, :S hope it does just need to work out how to turn it on via vagcom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBiscuit Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Nice work guys.Great guide Jon, those pics are pretty much exactly how I did mine.I'm wanting that cruise stalk, good work gazza / cardaft finding that compatible stalk.To enable cruise is really simple once you've got vag com, it can be done with the trial version I think.From Ross tech Enable cruiseActivating Cruise Control on a new ECU (DBW):Factory fresh ECU's often come with cruise control de-activated. If this is the case, there will not be a letter "G" in the Component field of VAG-COM when connected to the Engine.[select][01 - Engine][Login - 11]Enter 11463 to activate cruise control[Do It!]After doing this procedure, there should be a letter "G" in the Component field.Switch connections & cruise can be tested by reading some measuring blocks, as per my previous posts.Anything I can help with let me know. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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