veedubdude Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Im planning on swapping the standard gearbox on my 1.4 AHW to the 6 speed from the gti. From what I've read, it's basically a straight swap, just with the pin(?) from the top of the new gearbox needed too. Can anyone confirm this? And also does anyone have one lying about by any chance?! Lol What sort of power can these boxes handle, and do they have the inherent rivet problem as seen in the golf mk4 1.4 and 1.6 gearboxes where they (the rivets) can sheer off? Cheers guys, Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 I don't know how similar the 1.4 golf engine is to the Lupo ones, but you can't swap the 6 speed box on to the Lupo 1.4's as they don't fit. But i can't remember the engine codes off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Im planning on swapping the standard gearbox on my 1.4 AHW to the 6 speed from the gti. From what I've read, it's basically a straight swapThats for GTI to GTI.The none GTI would need a lot of work.Sump needs changing, pedal box needs changing, gearlinkages need changing, and theres no one tried it to see if it would even work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Just tp drag this back up now I've done a lot more research! i am going to need to change my 'box now the turbo is going ahead... The golf has a hydraulic clutch as standard, so am I right in thinking I would need the different sump to bolt the g/box too, and the different gear selector linkages? With the car in bits at the moment this won't be too big a job luckily!The blocks are the same, and now that Im running the lupo GTi internals, i can see no reason why this shouldn't work!?Cheers fellas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Well I've been looking at a lot of different pictures of my block, and the GTi block - and I dont think the 6 speed will bolt on Ah well will just have to run it very carefully this year until I can afford some sort of performance gear rebuild! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrat Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 i doubt the 6 speed box is gonna be any stronger ... but yea quite a few things that are different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Well my box is off a 75 bhp engine, and the GTi is at least off a standard 125 bhp engine. I know the golf box has inherent problems with rivets used on the diff, but I cannot get new uprated gears for my 'box.Anyways, Ive bought a lupo block so that I have the option to fit one of the GTi gearboxes (whether this be off the polo/lupo i need to work out yet). The block itself is also a different casting internally, and is a lot stronger than my current block! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 i happen to have my six speed gearbox sat in my garage would you like me to take a few pics so you can see if it will fit ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Yes if you could that would be great Cheers bud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Noddy, any chance of that pic yet? Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddy Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Noddy, any chance of that pic yet? Cheers!sorry buddy i took the pic at the weekend and forgot about them here hope they help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted February 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Thats great, owe you one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted December 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Need to drag this thread up again! Noddy, do you have any pictures of the actual lupo six speed mounting bracket? Im trying to figure out if the beetle 6 speed gearbox mounting bracket has the same bolt pattern as the lupo - Im pretty sure it has but the pictures on ETKA are no use! That way I can use the original top part of the mount, the beetle bottom half of the mount, and not need any custom fabrication to finally get this 6 speed in!!!Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Lower or top mount?The lower is very similar to the mk4 polo,im not sure about the top one. When i go outside today, ill take a few pictures for you.John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted December 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Both if possible! But Im more interested in the lower, and how it connects to the top.Cheers bud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 How the lower gearbox mount connects to the top mount? through the gearbox!Im just cleaning my gearbox at the moment, so ill get some photos up when its in a bit of a better state.John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperGTI Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) OK,Top mount looks like this:And goes Here:Bottom mount attachment is here:And the rest is still attatched to the car, which reminds me that i must take it off the car and get some poly bushes to fit it! it looks like this:John Edited December 16, 2008 by CasperGTI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted December 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 That's perfect thanks dude, Ive got the gearbox here so once the mounts are sorted I can finally get it in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 have you though about cryogenicaly freezing your gear box.spoke to some with a pulsar who srags them says 1 gear box last 1 season compared to 3 the previous.can get you details of companys that do this if you want.gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedubdude Posted December 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Yeah there was a write-up in one of the mags awhile back, its meant to b really good. If I have problems with the 6 speed then ill consider it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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