Zebrasandtriangles Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I'm a newbie here - just read this entire thread, I have been gripped by what you have achieved and really want to know if you have succeeded in getting the car light as a feather and fast as f@@k!! Come back on here and give us an update. People like you inspire others. Keep up the good work and let us all know what your up to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted February 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 After being told about the comments and posts asking for updates i have decided to come back on and post, it will probably only be on this thread for a while until faith is restored but i'll keep you all updated. The loop has under gone a huge change recently, its now halfway into the space frame fabrication.A massive design change was undertaken last week, i have decided to not go with the chain drive but have chosen a rather more reliable and more sane approach. The engine is going to turn 90 degrees and mount directly to a BMW M3 diff, this will do away with having to change a £170 chain every thousand miles. Thanks to all of you peeps that asked for me back, its nice to know there are still genuine club lupo enthusiasts out there.Some of the spaceframe tacked in place, the main 2 tubes in the bulkhead ( the larger tubes mounted horizontal) are both the load bearing tubes that will take all of the push from the back wheels! border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" class="linked-image" />Starting to cut out the left inner wing sections, these are very heavy gauge steel which was a suprise. border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" class="linked-image" />The left inner panel removed, the car back in the garage as it was so cold outside. border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" class="linked-image" />Boris in his bed for the next few days. border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" class="linked-image" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Good work Daz style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />Looks like its coming along nicely. How many more weekends till you can test fit the engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted February 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 (edited) Good work Daz style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />Looks like its coming along nicely. How many more weekends till you can test fit the engine?I plan to get the diff and a few new smaller covers for the engine within the next week or two. Once i have those i can start making the lower rails for the engine and diff to mount to. i hope to have the engine dry fitted before the end of the month. (fingers crossed) style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" /> Edited February 5, 2007 by 1 Litre Screamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr P Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 good to see you back style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> looking good as well. as i have and many others have said this is an awesome project and an inspiration to many people.keep up the good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The subtle modder Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 After being told about the comments and posts asking for updates i have decided to come back on and post, it will probably only be on this thread for a while until faith is restored but i'll keep you all updated. The loop has under gone a huge change recently, its now halfway into the space frame fabrication.nice to see you back and updating style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shades:" border="0" alt="shades.gif" /> and the cage fabrication is looking good as i and others have said above there is some complete morrons out there who treat the forum more like a bragging ground than anything else but just ignore them they will learn the hard way one day style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> I have decided to not go with the chain drive but have chosen to mount it directly to a BMW M3 diff, this will do away with having to change a £170 chain every thousand miles. sounds a good inventive way only thing that would concern me is why Z cars (the mini cionverters) havent ever done it this way so im assumning theres some downside? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":confused:" border="0" alt="confused.gif" /> Thanks to all of you peeps that asked for me back, its nice to know there are still genuine club lupo enthusiasts out there. Daz its people like you and cars like yours which really show what can be done with cars and generally give something differnt to the car scene yours will most probably be worth all the meither when you drive it and i have no doubt it will be a crowd puller at any shows you chose to take it to style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shades:" border="0" alt="shades.gif" /> if you hurry up you could bring it to UD in march style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Oh and iv updated the MINi forum thread for you as they were asking if there was any progressYour page on TMFwayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willcrook Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 only just spotted on the thread title that you plan to make this rear wheel drive style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 just r4ead the thread from page one, cool idea indeed and cant wait t see the finished project. dont think your crazy, would be crazy for someone like me to attempt it without a clue! hope all goes well man and ignore the people who dont get why a modified car is modified, to make it original and your own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payna Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 looking good, gotta be pretty clued up to take this on! fair play! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 looks alright i suppose darren... style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />...taking your time though arnt you?!?! hehe style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Green Giant Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 tres bien darren tres bien. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWR Lupo Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Looking good Darren, still think your mad tho style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> And good to see you back, i missed you style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWR Lupo Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Glad to see your using a diff now, i wont want to throw you off at the first sight of a bend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Thanks for the replies folks, Luke, even without a diff you wouldnt catch me, your car would be way to heavy with nappies and baby buggy!@ Wayne, i think the reason zcars dont run this type of differential is simply to do with the awkwardness of mounting the engine longitudal rather than transverse. I have done some work on trying to find a downside to it but thats the only thing I could come up with. to get around this I simply need to shorten and baffle the sump and maybe fit an accusump system to maintain the oil pressure in the event of mega G cornering. If need be then i'll make it dry sumped but i reallly dont want the costs involved with that. The biggest advantage of fitting the Bimmer diff is simply its size and the limited slip, plus the lack of £170 every 1000miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunalupi Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 (edited) I think I need you to come round and help me fix mine - swapping a few bits of plastic, metal and a radiator is going to seem like childsplay after this project! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0" alt="huh.gif" /> I can't wait till its finished....hurry up! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Edited February 6, 2007 by lunalupi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Coming along nicely Mr D, plough on! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shades:" border="0" alt="shades.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfbr Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Looks and sounds as if things are moving on at a decent pace darren style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Can't wait for the next update! Good to see that you hadnt dissapeared completely into oblivion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTi T Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Looks and sounds as if things are moving on at a decent pace darren style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Can't wait for the next update! Good to see that you hadnt dissapeared completely into oblivion.He will be disappearing into the oblivion when it's running though style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> It's going to shift somewhat and surprise many folks on trackdays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrified Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Good to see you updating it matey!When it's done give me a shout and we'll take it to santapod style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The subtle modder Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 looks alright i suppose darren... style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />...taking your time though arnt you?!?! hehe style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":roflmao:" border="0" alt="roflmao.gif" />i think the reason zcars dont run this type of differential is simply to do with the awkwardness of mounting the engine longitudal rather than transverse. I have done some work on trying to find a downside to it but thats the only thing I could come up with. to get around this I simply need to shorten and baffle the sump and maybe fit an accusump system to maintain the oil pressure in the event of mega G cornering. If need be then i'll make it dry sumped but i reallly dont want the costs involved with that. The biggest advantage of fitting the Bimmer diff is simply its size and the limited slip, plus the lack of £170 every 1000miles.they did one two engine in the rear both driving one wheel each RWD obvoiusly and i think this required the situation them being sideways (longitudinaly) but ill try find the mag tommorrow swear they didnt mention a diff thats what i thought so different about when you mentioned a diff when it was going to be FWD aside from the cost im sure you will also be aware its apparently quite bitch to cange them and there has been a few kit car instances where the chains have snapped on repeated hard starts (like santapod as suggested) which can cause further damage It's going to shift somewhat and surprise many folks on trackdaysShould be silly quick theres guys with R1 minis doing 60 in 4.5 seconds not much in bike terms but in car terms its friggin quick i want a go when its finished style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> that will surprise me enough style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 R1 minis doing 60 in 4.5 seconds not much in bike terms but in car terms its friggin quickBy the sound of it this will be making mince meat of that style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Litre Screamer Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 (edited) i'm hoping to be alot quicker than 4.5 seconds to 60mph, as wayne pointed out, this was with a car thats alot heavier than my lupo and also the r1 engine has alot less power and torque than the zx12 so going on the figures and mass of the car it should be getting times of 2.5 to 3.5 seconds to 60. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" /> As far as the chains go wayne, I have seen a chain snap on a mini as he launched from the line. Lets just say it was sliced and diced very easily! I can see the first time i take the car to a meet there will be a line forming for joy rides, after the first person has got out the line will dissappear. Vomit central. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" /> Edited February 7, 2007 by 1 Litre Screamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Green Giant Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 (edited) 2.5 to 3.5 seconds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /> flipping heck! pant wetting spead, you better go buy a couple of pairs of brown cord trousers for sure!!! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Edited February 7, 2007 by Little Green Giant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunalupi Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Me first in the line for a joy ride style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> It's really coming along now... How much is left to do, I've lost track now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Az_zA Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 dam style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shades:" border="0" alt="shades.gif" /> nice project mate, this is gonna be a fast ass beast! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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