Skezza Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 Me and @mattarosa brought an immobilized 6n2 Polo GTI conversion to life tonight which had the original standard key. Surprising amount of fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Cool. How long did it take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I could have done that quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 10 hours ago, mk2 said: Cool. How long did it take? In all honesty, not that long at all. Extracted the pin and adapted a new key. Then it was just all the fun that comes after the engine turns over for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 There's a song in the charts that uses the phrase "better faster quicker"... Anything @Rich does is always faster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Rich loves daft punk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradGTi Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 I am part of the 1 key gti gang, I’ve read the thread and got a bit confused 😂 can you do a guide on how to do it ? Or can I pay you to do mine 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchouki85 Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 Hello I have just read this subject which interests me and I am in the middle of it at the moment, indeed I have a Lupo which has not been equipped with remote centralization so I am snooping everywhere for information to date I have equipped myself with a CCM 1C0 962 258N as well as 2 remote controls in 433MHz then 2 ID44/48 in order to program the keys for starting then to be able to encode my id44/48 I took this box bought on aliexpress that I received today so I am progressing slowly but surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 8/19/2022 at 8:18 PM, tchouki85 said: Hello I have just read this subject which interests me and I am in the middle of it at the moment, indeed I have a Lupo which has not been equipped with remote centralization so I am snooping everywhere for information to date I have equipped myself with a CCM 1C0 962 258N as well as 2 remote controls in 433MHz then 2 ID44/48 in order to program the keys for starting then to be able to encode my id44/48 I took this box bought on aliexpress that I received today so I am progressing slowly but surely Good luck with it. But I have little faith that it'll work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 The key side of things isn't the problem. It's getting the car to accept the ID chip in the key that's the issue. By the looks of things, that device reads the data from the key- just like any of the id tag readers can - take dog or cat chips (same tech). But as far as i know, the chip can't be reprogrammed. It has a fixed built in serial number, just like a phone's EMEI code. Or MAC code or PUK code... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchouki85 Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 hello everyone, today I received my transponders to program my keys, so I will let you know when the time comes, because I have to go on vacation later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 On 9/1/2022 at 10:59 AM, mk2 said: The key side of things isn't the problem. It's getting the car to accept the ID chip in the key that's the issue. By the looks of things, that device reads the data from the key- just like any of the id tag readers can - take dog or cat chips (same tech). But as far as i know, the chip can't be reprogrammed. It has a fixed built in serial number, just like a phone's EMEI code. Or MAC code or PUK code... There is no easy way of doing this for a GTI. I spent 18 months researching, hacking, and finally cracking and while the solution was ultimately simple enough.... it wasn't that simple.... i.e. a fix in a can simple. There is no fix in a can for the Lupo GTI key situation. We've discussed before the idea of posting my findings. I was fairly deep into a post before I decided to can it off. Last thing we need is Lupo's to start going missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted September 6, 2022 Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 Good call @Skezza. I'd rather have a Lupo with no key instead of a key with no Lupo. 👍🏻😀 If you go to the next meet, we can talk there face to face... Right now, they are pretty much secure because all the systems that I know of don't include Lupo on their list. People that can copy keys "commercially" need the car for a few hours- because they unsolder the memory chip to reprogram it... I've copied keys on other vdubs and yes, you can do it in about 3 minutes. And you don't even need an original. So basically once you've broken into the car and your laptop is plugged in, you away in under 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 On 9/6/2022 at 8:45 AM, mk2 said: Good call @Skezza. I'd rather have a Lupo with no key instead of a key with no Lupo. 👍🏻😀 If you go to the next meet, we can talk there face to face... Right now, they are pretty much secure because all the systems that I know of don't include Lupo on their list. People that can copy keys "commercially" need the car for a few hours- because they unsolder the memory chip to reprogram it... I've copied keys on other vdubs and yes, you can do it in about 3 minutes. And you don't even need an original. So basically once you've broken into the car and your laptop is plugged in, you away in under 5 minutes. I tested my method on a Polo 6N2 GTI. Friend of @mattarosa it still took me about 20-30 mins. No reprogramming of the EEPROM involved, just obtained the SKC and entered through the front door. So even for someone who knows how, it's not like a rapid hot wire job. Now.... The Audi and Jetta? Different story. For the Audi, I was able to obtain the SKC in a matter of seconds using a £5 'specialist. cable.... Which I found out really quickly is just a bog standard KKL cable they sell on eBay. New key took me no more than 5 mins, sat on the drivers seat. All very comfortable. The Jetta, I bought myself a key cloning device called Xhorse. A local shop quoted me £80. This device was £100 delivered. There's nothing like DIY plus you get to keep the tool of evil. It took less than 5 mins to clone the key lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchouki85 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 9 hours ago, Skezza said: I tested my method on a Polo 6N2 GTI. Friend of @mattarosa it still took me about 20-30 mins. No reprogramming of the EEPROM involved, just obtained the SKC and entered through the front door. So even for someone who knows how, it's not like a rapid hot wire job. Now.... The Audi and Jetta? Different story. For the Audi, I was able to obtain the SKC in a matter of seconds using a £5 'specialist. cable.... Which I found out really quickly is just a bog standard KKL cable they sell on eBay. New key took me no more than 5 mins, sat on the drivers seat. All very comfortable. The Jetta, I bought myself a key cloning device called Xhorse. A local shop quoted me £80. This device was £100 delivered. There's nothing like DIY plus you get to keep the tool of evil. It took less than 5 mins to clone the key lol. this is what device you used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 3 hours ago, tchouki85 said: this is what device you used No. I didn't use a device. I extracted the pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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