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Them plugs looked awful! Definitely was running rich since there was always quite a strong smell of Petrol. My stupidity thought that was down to it possibly being remapped badly since when I plugged my OBD scanner in, had 0 fault codes come up as well as that poor fuel economy. I'm guessing VCDS looks a lot more in depth than OBD 2 though? 

Located in West Yorkshire!😂

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On ‎4‎/‎25‎/‎2019 at 10:04 PM, Adrian777 said:

In the meantime I was quoted £570 including labour from a VAG specialist to have the timing belt, water pump, tensioner and camshaft cover gasket to be changed. 

Hate to say it but that's expensive, I work for a main VW dealer and we charge £494 for parts and labour on a cambelt and waterpump and that's in the London catchment area where everything is more expensive! The rocker cover doesn't have a gasket, its a green sealant and costs £79.50 inc vat for a 100g tube!

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4 hours ago, mk2 said:

It'll take at least two hours for the lump to cool before you could start work on it...

Heat makes things come apart easier.

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  • 2 weeks later...

GTI Engine update:

Got someone to have a look at it and the engine has been compression tested. Results show there is nothing wrong with compression on all 4 Cylinders.

Apparently the car drives without misfire but there is a lot of blue smoke so it's burning oil. From this information am I right in saying that the piston rings are ok then? Since if there was a fault with the piston rings, wouldn't the compression test show this by a lower figure?

In my head right now, changing the camshaft cover sealant and sparkplug o rings seems logical in the way that compression is fine but it's burning oil so oil is obviously getting to where the sparkplugs are. 

So options are changing the camshaft cover sealant and o rings, engine swap or rebuild.

(I know I'm gonna reread this thread in like 2 years time and think wow I used to be stupid)😂

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We make a return!

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No misfiring now, I believe that was down to my stupid ass not tightening the plugs on enough but lesson learnt😂

Still burning oil however but only under very hard acceleration so I will be getting the engine reconditioned asap but due to me needing to daily the GTI and do long distances, it's probably smarter just to bite the bullet and let somebody who knows what they're doing do it instead.

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21 hours ago, Adrian777 said:

Still burning oil however but only under very hard acceleration so I will be getting the engine reconditioned asap but due to me needing to daily the GTI and do long distances, it's probably smarter just to bite the bullet and let somebody who knows what they're doing do it instead.

A little oil burning isn't a problem that needs to be rushed, it will still drive fine.

Rather than rushing, take a bit of time to save cash and to find someone good and reliable to do the work - in the meantime enjoy your Gti

 

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23 hours ago, Adrian777 said:

Still burning oil however but only under very hard acceleration so I will be getting the engine reconditioned asap but due to me needing to daily the GTI and do long distances, it's probably smarter just to bite the bullet and let somebody who knows what they're doing do it instead.

No need to rush it. Find someone good and competent :)

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Now booked in next week for a full engine rebuild😁

 

In the meantime though, put it on ramps to see if I could work out where the exhaust was blowing. 

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Unfortunately didn't find the source of the blow but it sounds like it's coming from that section pictured above. It does look like the mid section has been replaced quite recently though! 

Correct me if I'm wrong, the mid section on a GTI has a silencer on it right? This one just looks straight.

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Yes the GTI should have a middle silencer, looks like someone has deleted it to make more noise, so perhaps it's not actually blowing, it's just louder

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Good to see you are not rushing into anything with this!

 

I'm sorry, I'm going to be Dad here, you will be spending a big chunk of wedge on this engine rebuild, I really hope you have done your homework about who ever you have booked with: 

Have they got solid VAG experience - better still rebuilt an AVY engine before?

Do they have good reputation? - googled for reviews?

How long will they take? - if they don't know what they are doing a few weeks can very quickly turn into months

What guarantee will they provide for workmanship and materials?

 

Not being funny, the fact they can fit an engine rebuild into their schedule within a week or 2 would not be a tick in the box ....that is unless the situation was really desperate. As already said by a few of us, you have good compression, your current oil leak is not terminal, your situation is a long way from desperate - probably just requires a head rebuild alone

Just as an example, I enquired at a very good garage about getting a bottom end rebuild done for mine, they were happy to take on the job, but couldn't book it in for 2 or 3 months.

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On 5/23/2019 at 10:29 PM, LR5V said:

Good to see you are not rushing into anything with this!

 

I'm sorry, I'm going to be Dad here, you will be spending a big chunk of wedge on this engine rebuild, I really hope you have done your homework about who ever you have booked with: 

Have they got solid VAG experience - better still rebuilt an AVY engine before?

Do they have good reputation? - googled for reviews?

How long will they take? - if they don't know what they are doing a few weeks can very quickly turn into months

What guarantee will they provide for workmanship and materials?

 

Not being funny, the fact they can fit an engine rebuild into their schedule within a week or 2 would not be a tick in the box ....that is unless the situation was really desperate. As already said by a few of us, you have good compression, your current oil leak is not terminal, your situation is a long way from desperate - probably just requires a head rebuild alone

Just as an example, I enquired at a very good garage about getting a bottom end rebuild done for mine, they were happy to take on the job, but couldn't book it in for 2 or 3 months.

Cheers for looking out! So the gentleman that's doing it has several years experience rebuilding engines apparently, he's going to be retiring next year. Has quite a few 5 star reviews on Google but I don't think he's done an AVY before but knows the common issues such as the valves. 

Should have an update next week on progress but right now I believe the engine is out😁

 

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In the meantime, got a new sump and some sealant to put on whilst it's having a rebuild😍

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(If anyone's interested in what sealant VW Parts ordered for us)

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Sump prices have gone up a bit though since a few years ago! Paid around £160 including VAT 

 

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59 minutes ago, Rich said:

Why a sump?

Also is it a golf Mk5 1.6 one?

The thread on the current sump is stripped but it's already oversized so the mechanic who looked at the car last recommended it'd be better just to get another sump. It's a Lupo GTI sump, just gave my reg to VW Parts and they found it and then I checked the part number VW Parts gave us to one I found on here to confirm it's not from a Golf although it fits.

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On 5/27/2019 at 5:31 PM, Rich said:

Does it have a hole in the bottom for an oil sensor?

It doesn't😀 Realised I could have saved a lot by just buying a MK5 one and blanked it off but lesson learnt☺️

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So I've been silent for a very long time whilst the car was going through its rebuild and what a rollercoaster of emotions that was!

The main setback was that after a few days, it'd been discovered that the Skirt from Piston 3 had a crack in it!1786698822_CrackedPistonSkirt.JPG.66f60bc70697c8ffea7c40df3e58e71a.JPG2064128397_CrackedPistonSkirt2.JPG.48ffebf148cc78c31d994092bcf1a35c.JPG

That set us back a lot of weeks getting one from a main dealer, but £202 for a new one believe it or not!

The car is now back though and currently just bedding the rings in and all the other components such as the clutch and brakes since it'd been stood around for about 8 weeks.

But in other news I hate which ever previous owner changed the gear knob...

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All this time I believed it was a 5 Speed but turns out it's a 6...😂

Got a lot planned for this car right now though, so I will be hardwiring a Nextbase 522 front and rear dashcam into it very soon and will be taking the full front end off since none of the panels line up how I'd like them to as well as the housing one of the washer jets which has come off.542471123_Misalignedbumper.JPG.8a2dad7964a702e9987321c00bc250f8.JPG70167777_WasherJethousing.JPG.6e44ccca762dacb9eefb3245bc3d7b9d.JPG

 

 

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