Prole Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Right working on the new loop, getting pretty deep and writing up a list of jobs. So the standard roof rust and round the arches getting sorted for £250 all in, so happy there. Then there's the engine... We've got a cracked thermostat housing, so going to the dealer to get a vw one. Then the rocker cover gasket simple enough. But where I'm abit stuck is a new starter motor as the bearings are going on the one I've got. Can anyone recommend a good one new or go for a reconditioned one?? An before people say it's not the best of condition this loop, but I like putting in the work an for £1400 I'm happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Loop Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 Good job on keeping it alive Is there a huge difference in price between a cheap new starter motor and a reconditioned one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 Respect to anyone keeping these going and not just breaking them, I really cant get my head around those who break perfectly tidy examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj1 Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Prole said: We've got a cracked thermostat housing, so going to the dealer to get a vw one. Then the rocker cover gasket simple enough. But where I'm abit stuck is a new starter motor as the bearings are going on the one I've got. Can anyone recommend a good one new or go for a reconditioned one?? A thermostat housing from Euro with their never ending sale is around £40. Significantly cheaper than the VW one yet exactly the same. Been using this for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prole Posted June 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 This is what I'm wondering I'm not 100% sure the housing is cracked (brother in law thinks so), possibly a seal has gone due there is coolant blotches on the block but no other signs. I'm not willing to order a whole housing for £113 just in case. I know that the polo housings get pretty fragile with age an worth replacing the whole unit, an I assume the same with loops. With the starter motors I'm stumped what to go with a Bosch or a cheap shitter for half the price, money isn't a problem. But £100 is good money I can spend elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prole Posted June 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 On 6/15/2018 at 8:02 AM, Sausage said: Respect to anyone keeping these going and not just breaking them, I really cant get my head around those who break perfectly tidy examples. Well just been offered another with mot for £500, haven't seen the condition yet an if it's not worth sorting I may break that. Would be a pity but a spare engine an gearbox is always nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prole Posted June 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) On 6/15/2018 at 7:16 AM, Blue Loop said: Good job on keeping it alive Is there a huge difference in price between a cheap new starter motor and a reconditioned one? Well just from euro car parts these are the pricing, i haven't checked the pricing on reconditioned ones yet, But from what I've been told there is not a huge difference. RTX £103.99 Bosch £171.99+£107.99 surcharge Remy £122.99 I can get cheaper though trade, but my friend is not back at the yard until Monday. Edited June 16, 2018 by Prole Grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Prole said: Well just been offered another with mot for £500, haven't seen the condition yet an if it's not worth sorting I may break that. Would be a pity but a spare engine an gearbox is always nice Damn, where are you finding these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prole Posted June 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 Just now, Sausage said: Damn, where are you finding these? Just down where I live haha, been keeping my eyes peeled. Then mine come up on Facebook for a quick sale price. An was down the pub lastnight an a friend said his mate had one he wanted to shift on the cheap. Just sheer coincidence, I'm sure coming across two cheap gti's in 4 days is pretty rare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Loop Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Prole said: Well just from euro car parts these are the pricing, i haven't checked the pricing on reconditioned ones yet, But from what I've been told there is not a huge difference. RTX £103.99 Bosch £171.99+£107.99 surcharge Remy £122.99 I can get cheaper though trade, but my friend is not back at the yard until Monday. I'm not sure I'd pay nearly 3x the price for a Bosch one. I'd go for a new one from a cheaper brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 don't waste your time on an Rtx. rebuild yours yourself or find a component remanufacturing place near you and get yours done. alternatively just find a good second hand one and fit that, not impossible and usually £20. thermostat housing, lupo gti specific, I have a good spare but you would have to make me a decent offer as I like having a spare kicking about but then I have never had a problem with mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prole Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 On 6/16/2018 at 11:34 PM, Rich said: don't waste your time on an Rtx. rebuild yours yourself or find a component remanufacturing place near you and get yours done. alternatively just find a good second hand one and fit that, not impossible and usually £20. Taking your advice there rich never touched a starter motor before in regards to a rebuild, an have to say looks pretty simple to work on. Just got myself a new gas soldering iron recently so at least I got a reason to put it to good use. Bought a oe starter motor to work on from Facebook for 25 and a friend says jcr supplies for parts. Do you know the measurements for brushes or code that the loop gti uses?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 just clean the carbon off, there's a guide on the mk4 golf forum. use the unknown one, rebuild the broken one. if you do scrap it's gimme a shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoddlewaddle Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 It's not impossible to rebuild a starter with components, as said. Bearings, brushes etc tend to be "a size" that is also fitted to a hundred other things, rather than bespoke. For reference, I sourced a new voltage regulator for our Mk2 Polo, for about a tenner, compared to the £x00 for a full alternator. Try giving ElectroDiesel a call, they were the only people that could find said regulator - properly old fashioned place but they may post things to you if you ask. https://www.edne.co.uk/ (Failing that, if they can get the bits, I'll happily collect them and post them to you, they're relatively local to me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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