MotorBoatMyGoat Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 Hey guys. On my gti I'm having what seems to be poor throttle response. Whilst revving in neutral, the revs (once off the accelerater) drop very slowly back to idle. Any ideas what may cause this? Was thinking I'd clean out the throttle body as it looks a little grubby. Maybe fit an updated panel filter? Any suggestions? If I remove the throttle body, will I need to reprogram it? What type of gasket sat between the engine and throttle body (paper/rubber)? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Badbrains Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Heavy flywheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Has it always done it or is this a new thing? Same hot or cold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotorBoatMyGoat Posted October 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 30 minutes ago, Sausage said: Has it always done it or is this a new thing? Same hot or cold? I've recently bought the gti but only just noticed it. It's the same whether it's hot or cold. Just seems slow at retuning to idle. Much slower than any other car I've owned, and especially as the gti is supposedly responsive I imagine something is wrong. I've changed the coil and leads recently but doubt that's caused anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) If it drives all right and it isnt bad enough to make gear changes annoying then I wouldnt worry about it. My TDI does it but drives absolutely fine. Heavy flywheel is right up there as the suspect. Make a vid and link to it if you like though... Edited October 8, 2017 by Sausage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotorBoatMyGoat Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 17 hours ago, Sausage said: If it drives all right and it isnt bad enough to make gear changes annoying then I wouldnt worry about it. My TDI does it but drives absolutely fine. Heavy flywheel is right up there as the suspect. Make a vid and link to it if you like though... Im probably going to clean out the throttle body anyway because it looks oily. What kind of gasket is between the tb and engine ie paper or rubber. Will I need to reprogram the tb once unplugged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Badbrains Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 The tb is oily because the crankcase ventilation is routed in the filter housing above it. It is good to clean every once in a while tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 consider the aspect that the potentiometer could be playing up. read the measuring blocks on vagcom. find a local mk4 idiot who will do it for the craic if you don't fancy investing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotorBoatMyGoat Posted October 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 8 hours ago, Mr.Badbrains said: The tb is oily because the crankcase ventilation is routed in the filter housing above it. It is good to clean every once in a while tho. I did find there was oil on the air filter. I was aware the crank case vent went back into the aire filter but didn't realise it would gunk the tb that bad. Anyway, I've decided to fit a catch tank (hopefully stop the oil) and an upgraded panel filter, probably a k&n. Clean up the tb and get the throttle position checked. Hopefully it'll improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Badbrains Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Has anyone tried to eliminate the throttle pedal latency with vcds? I think it might be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Probably: https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/462509-vcdsobdeleven-increased-sensitivity-of-the-throttle-pedal/ Seems like dsg thing only though from my brief look.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr.Badbrains said: Has anyone tried to eliminate the throttle pedal latency with vcds? I think it might be possible. What do you mean? The ECU is sampling the TPS many times a second, so it knows exactly what's going on. If you're talking about the throttle valve opening delay, that is part of the emissions control program. In days of old, carburettors used to squirt a neat jet of petrol in to the mix to quench the mix. Nowadays, the ECU allows the revs to build up as it gradually opens the throttle, keeping a reasonably high plenum vacuum until full demand is met. Ok, so it all happens in about 1/2 a second.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Badbrains Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, mk2 said: What do you mean? The ECU is sampling the TPS many times a second, so it knows exactly what's going on. If you're talking about the throttle valve opening delay, that is part of the emissions control program. In days of old, carburettors used to squirt a neat jet of petrol in to the mix to quench the mix. Nowadays, the ECU allows the revs to build up as it gradually opens the throttle, keeping a reasonably high plenum vacuum until full demand is met. Ok, so it all happens in about 1/2 a second.... I don't know, but there seems to be a delay between when you push the gas pedal and the throttle valve operates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Normal. Meant to be that way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Same with cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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