LowerclassLupo Posted December 24, 2014 Report Share Posted December 24, 2014 What sort of price am I looking at for a real or show cage? any help would be good! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 Drain pipe sprayed black? Twenty quid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerclassLupo Posted December 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 Pipe would be a bit too chunky I think.. but definitely cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 I know a few people who used ordinary house drain pipe and visually you can't tell it's fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 It's just not exactly safe. Do it properly or not at all I say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 It's just not exactly safe. Do it properly or not at all I say. even if it's for show ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerclassLupo Posted December 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) Its only plastic though isn't it.. safer than having a metal show cage. Its hardly going to do anything if it moves in an accident. I'm gonna have a look for some smaller plastic tubing normal gutter drain pipe would look too big. Thanks Skezza I never thought of using plastic.Any pictures? Edited December 26, 2014 by LowerclassLupo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 If it's just plastic, why bother? I've never actually heard of anyone 'showing' a car with a plastic roll cage. Seems extremely pointless, plus in the event of an accident who knows what damage shrapnel in the cabin could do, plastic or otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerclassLupo Posted December 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 If it looks the same as a show cage for a fraction of the cost and weight I might give it a try. I love the look of having a roll cage but don't want to have to spend £734 or have hefty metal tubing bolted to my car and through my dash. Each to their own I guess http://www.customcages.co.uk/rollcage/loadrollcage.castle?manufacturer=volkswagen&model=lupo&type=multipoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arosaSDI Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 I fitted the omp one to my arosa, it looked good but was impractical for normal road use. ive seen people use 106 ones, I think there are ones on ebay for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 734 quid or 20 quid. Take your pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadmetal Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Show cages are stupid and dangerous.If you're gonna put bits of metal tubing in your car, you better be certain they're not going to smack you in the head in the even of an accident.Also, drain pipe hurts as well, it'll also shatter, sending nice sharp bits of plastic flying about.£740 is actually a good price for a proper CDS, msa full cage. You will have to pay for some one to fit it properly though. It'll also do wonders for the chassis, the increase in stiffness will make an already fun car a blast to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Show cages are stupid and dangerous.If you're gonna put bits of metal tubing in your car, you better be certain they're not going to smack you in the head in the even of an accident.Also, drain pipe hurts as well, it'll also shatter, sending nice sharp bits of plastic flying about.£740 is actually a good price for a proper CDS, msa full cage. You will have to pay for some one to fit it properly though. It'll also do wonders for the chassis, the increase in stiffness will make an already fun car a blast to drive.You really think a roll cage will improve stiffness that much? You'd be better off installing a front brace and being done with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadmetal Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 A proper cage will massively increase chassis rigidity.A front brace will only slightly reduce flex between the two front struts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 People with show cages suck. Badly. Use drain pipes? Seriously that would look terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 People with show cages suck. Badly. Use drain pipes? Seriously that would look terrible.For what it's worth, imo cages in Lupo's are totally ****ing pointless as it is. Nowhere near enough power to harness the extra rigidity. Show cages are just as stupid, trying to make it something it's not. At least with drain pipes they don't cost as much yet still look as daft.Would I fit a real roll cage, show cage, drainage pipe cage?No.... never. Just clarifying my position on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) For what it's worth, imo cages in Lupo's are totally ****ing pointless as it is. Nowhere near enough power to harness the extra rigidity. Show cages are just as stupid, trying to make it something it's not. At least with drain pipes they don't cost as much yet still look as daft.Would I fit a real roll cage, show cage, drainage pipe cage?No.... never. Just clarifying my position on the matter.The lupo I think could make use of the rigidity. The rear ARB makes a hell of a difference. Plus that why if your racecar and you roll it you want die or end up with pvc in the eye. Skezza don't lie, thats your next mod isn't it. Edited December 27, 2014 by Dblock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerclassLupo Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Yeah I'll knock something up if it looks ****.. I've lost a tenner if not I've got a bargain show cage. I'll see if I get a day off and some spare time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3LLIOTT Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Honestly thought you was being sarcastic with the drain pipe suggestion. Why oh why would you do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Honestly thought you was being sarcastic with the drain pipe suggestion. Why oh why would you do that?Because Racecar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Because clearly someone has allowed extremely simple people the privilege of owning cars. You may as well save the hassle of having anything in the back of the car blocking entry/space and just use a marker pen (£1) to draw the shapes of the bars on the rear screen and rear quarter windows, everyone will think you've got a cage and that you're reeeeeeaaally cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Because Racecar.I r racecar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Honestly thought you was being sarcastic with the drain pipe suggestion. Why oh why would you do that? there was a certain hint of sarcasm but then I'd argue that I don't see the point for a roll cage at all in a lupo so make of it what you will.Because clearly someone has allowed extremely simple people the privilege of owning cars. You may as well save the hassle of having anything in the back of the car blocking entry/space and just use a marker pen (£1) to draw the shapes of the bars on the rear screen and rear quarter windows, everyone will think you've got a cage and that you're reeeeeeaaally cool. now now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3LLIOTT Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) there was a certain hint of sarcasm but then I'd argue that I don't see the point for a roll cage at all in a lupo so make of it what you will. now nowWasn't having a go at you mate! I know this sort of thing doesn't exactly take your fancy! Edited December 28, 2014 by T3LLIOTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I think if I used a Lupo on track days, I would certainly fit a roll cage.I've seen a few loops in breakers yards where they've been in accidents and the results are a tad worrying. The two side panels which make up most of the car's stucture are mainly held together by the firewall, the floor and the rear slam panel. The roof panel appears to be glued to the two side panels. So invariably, the roof generally peels away in a big accident where the car rolls over. There might be spot welds, but if there are any they fail during the crashing process.The car would be much stronger if there were positive engaging corner 'pins' on the tailgate, to lock with the main body.I'd also remove spare wheels, as they turn into projectiles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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