The man from the AA has been out but seems pretty clueless - says we should find out if its still in warranty - so I ring the local VW dealership who give me the number of the supplying dealer (we bought the car secondhand) Hazeldon in Donny. apparantly the warranty status on their records shows as "invalid" as there is no record of the car ever having been serviced! we bought it from a garage on the basis that they were waiting for the service records from the former keeper - we have never had them so it seems that we have bought a car three months ago which now has 38,000 miles on it and it's never been serviced! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":angry:" border="0" alt="mad.gif" /> still don't know what the dash message is for but I reckon it will be going in for a service pretty damn sharpish.... unpleased percy :mad: