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Hate to be the bearer of bad news. Its dead. I have got the final photos before it was scrapped. (not me). The interior is still around. I have a thread about Colour Concepts
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I run 195/45/r15 78 V Falkens. On protyre they have a offer if you buy 2 you get £10 off (4 £20)
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45 minutes ago, PaulV said:
Oh gawd James_VW, I should have thought of VW discontinuing all the panels and other original components. Am going to have to be extra careful, not crash and make sure no-one crashes into me!
lupo1.0se I guess there are meets in the Club social calender right, but maybe they're long distance. My idea of a good meet would be at a pub somewhere anywhere south of London, say in Surrey, Sussex, Kent, or Hants. Nothing fancy, just a beer or lunch on a sunny Sunday in spring or summer.
Some of the panels are avalaible on vw hertiage but it is a hit and miss affair.
Regarding meets etc. Not really happened for a while to be fair. Forums where the thing 10 to 15 years ago however its all moved to facebook. The last meets that happened south east way was one in Feb 2020 after this covid put a stop to things and the main organiser sold there lupo. There was one oxford way i think but i did not go. I did go to the German car show at Brooklands which was good but a bit overun with porsches which made every other german car interesting. I hope to go this event next year. Possibly more.
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2 hours ago, PaulV said:
Hi ClubLupo people.
Always wanted something quirky, different, rare, old school and (hopefully) reliable and so have just taken an expensive punt on my first VW - a Lupo GTI. Besides a couple of repairable little dinks on the rear three-quarter crease lines the old girl looks in impeccable order for her age. Am guessing this is a modern classic. Hopefully my TLC will take her into her thirties without any drama!
If there are any GTI owners in Surrey up for socialising it would be really good to meet up!
How weird it was test driving the car over the peak district national park under a clear sky and a full moon!
Take care of yourselves
Paul
I am not in Surrey but nearby. So Surrey is near to me. Depends where it so be fair where you are planning this.
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On 11/5/2023 at 11:44 AM, The Penguin said:
Air quality in the 1950's was immensely worse in British cities than it is today, NOx quickly turn into acids that can become smog's but never on the scale of the past.
Agreed. But what happened was in the early 2000s diesels where highly promoted and tax groups adjusted from the previous cc category to the emissons based category. However at the time they did not realise about the NOx situation and we ended up where we are now. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. It would be ineresting to see what a bus puts out in NOx.
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After the annoucment of end of production and the thread y Mk2. I thought i'd make a handy timeline. This possibly may be a little incomplete. But something i put togther for reference purposes.
Vw Up Timeline
2007 – Vw Up Concept shown at the 2007 Frankfurt Motorshow.
2009 – Vw E Up concept shown at the 63rd International Motor Show Germany in 2009.
2011 – Vw Up GT concept shown at the 2011 Frankfurt Motorshow. Concept car was scrapped after the Brazilan motorshow
2012 – Vw Up launched in the UK Market with initial offerings being 60bhp and 75bhp engines. 3 and 5 door available at launch. Special editions Up! Black and Up! White avalaible on launch.
2013 - Vw E Up launched (1st Generation) with a 60kw motor, 18.7kw with a 99 mile range. Vw Rock Up and Groove Up launched (same engines as before)
2014 – Vw Street Up launched engines same as before but with 20mm lowered suspension
2015
2016 – Vw Up facelifted all models. Up Beats launched
2017 – Vw Up TSi launched in the UK March 2017 with a 90bhp Turbo charged engine
2018 – Vw Up GTi launched in the UK Febuaruy 2018 with a n113bhp Turbo charged engine.
2019 – Vw UP Gti production paused March 2019 for unknown reasons (at the time). Vw E Up launched (2st Generation) September 2019 with a 60kw motor, 36.8kw with a 168 mile range. 75BHP and 90BHP TSi engines withdrawn from sale.
2020 – Vw UP Gti production restarted early 2020 (certain options removed from options list and price increased). Further information below on my thoughts on this. Covid affects production etc.
2021
2022 – Vw E-UP (2nd Generation) order book closed circa May 2022
2023 – Jan 2023 production of Up Gti ended due to order book full. October 2023 production of the Vw Up as whole ended.
Vw UP GT concept car scrapped
This one is a bit of a interesting story. I cannot recall exactly where i saw this (might of been the up owners club). But basically the car went to a breakers yard in holland (i think), someone went in there at the right time and saw it there and basically stripped it and reintstated all the parts on his up. It did appear for sale at one point. Got a recent link - https://www.autoblog.nl/nieuws/buitenkansje-koop-de-enige-echte-volkswagen-gt-up-3385027
Vw UP Gti production paused.
So I knew all along this was not right. Dealers where stating wltp was the reason why the UP Gti had been withdrawn from sale. But yet at the same the Up Gti was test and PASSED said tests (See - https://www.shropshirestar.com/.../these-are-the-cars.../) and was still available to order in European countries when this was first announced. (As of 04/12/2019, the UP gti is not orderable new in any country). Also Japan had a supply of 600 3 door Up GTI’s (this I will discuss later).
This makes me and I am sure other people very cheesed off with Volkswagen’s attitude towards this. Volkswagen for sure knew that the last small Volkswagen Gti was the lupo gti, by the time this car has been launched, 13 years (that’s right 13 years) had elapsed since the last new Lupo Gtis rolled off the production line, if you include 5 door Gti of a similar size (Mk5 Polo Gti), you have to go back even further to 2001 when the last MK5 Polo Gti was rolled off the production line which is 17 years ago. SEVENTEEN.
Also with little market research (see howmanyleft for the Abarth 500 sales - https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2%9C%93...). Vw could of easily calculated that it was potentially going to be a good seller as by the time the UP Gti was launched it only had the following rivals – Suzuki Swift Sport, Renault Twingo 110 bhp (or equivalent, I must add this is not sold in the UK anymore) and the Abarth 595. It likes having a goal completely open with no goalie and yet missing it (not the best analogy I know, but it is what I could think of).
It seems extremely short sighted of Volkswagen both Market Research and Production capabilities. On the discussion point that Japan is getting 600 up gtis. Again I see this as short sighted as Japans regulations means this comes under a category a car (like the Lupo Gti) which means in Japan there is tax incentives to go for one of these over say a Polo. Which follows onto this, in Japan between 2001 to 2005 they sold nearly 2000 lupo gti’s (1000 more than the uk sold in a similar period of time) and again as with the above have been waiting a similar amount of time for a replacement. With them also not getting a 5 door version as well, this is short sighted by Volkswagen as this could be quite lucrative for them.
End of Production
As for the end of production. Not unexpected. The model is essentially 12 years old now. They could of made them through to 2024, but I suspect it’s a two fold reason why this is happening.
1. Factory is being retooled at present for the new Passat (estate only)
2. Euro 7 emissions regulations coming in which for small city cars are next to impossible to meet.
I would not be surprised to hear that the Suzuki Swift or the Hyundai i10 or the Kia Piccanto end production soon because of this.
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13 hours ago, mk2 said:
To be replaced by £57k SUV EV model... Got no concrete confirmation of this story, but apparently this is it for the end of small vdub cars. Anyone have any info? Personally, I don't really like the style of the up. The seat and skoda versions look better IMO.
They expect sales to run out by next Autumn.
Sounds like you have been watching a certain youtuber (you know who you are!)
Anyway. The Up being discontinued is true. It already has been. Confirmed by Autocar. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/volkswagen-up
But its some what confusing. See below dates
The E-UP finished orders in 2022
The GTi finished in Jan 2023
Reamining Models October 2023
Its something i probably write in a bit more detail as the story is not clear cut. But i hope this helps.
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On 9/27/2023 at 9:20 PM, jennywren00899 said:
Hi
Im hoping may be able to get some help/advise...
My son has a 2001 1.4 Lupo Sport. We need to find a replacement gearbox as his driveshaft broke & damaged his gearbox making a hole in it.
We are struggling to find one, im aware we could maybe replace with other gearboxes but not sure what to look for to ensure it will fit and wondered if anyone could make any recommendations & also if anywhere like an online shop to buy one which is not gonna cost a fortune so i can get him back on the road.
Any help would be greatly appreciated 🙂
A friend of mine had a sport with a broken box. He could not find a replacement. In the end he fitted one from a 6n2 Polo gti. The ratios where a little different on 1st and 2nd the rest where ok
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Did see the article myself. Unfortunately these imports are sady diluting the market in some respects, don't get wrong i get the idea of importing them. But realistically at £10k that won't find a home, i would expect it more to be around £7500. The best UK example sold for over £10k on collecting cars. Sure it was not Anthracite or a blue (i supsect that might go for more if it was in the same condition) but it makes the import seem over priced.
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2005-volkswagen-lupo-gti
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Spotted this on piston heads. The lupo in question apprently has a famous owner. I wonder what they class as famous. The only two lupo (or arosa) for that matter was
James Mays mother had a Seat Arosa (mentioned on top gear)
Ksi used one recently for a video with the sidemen
Ad in queston.
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1 hour ago, Rich said:
Mk1 TT ?
Mk2
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6 hours ago, mk2 said:
(4h later) All over by now probably...
So how was it? All the gory detail please.
Ah yes i did do it, no one else came but i was going to do it anyway. So from Junction 23 to clacket lane services went well. Did that in around 50mins, i did stop at clackets. It was after clackets it got bad. So there was congestion, then road works at Junction 10 and finally congestion around heathrow. In the end doing the full loop took 2hrs 50 mins. The delays probably added quite a bit of that time. Around 5:00 of the orignal top gear sums it up really.
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Just a little over a week until the 1st July. Who is joining me?
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Minor update.
Auto express issue 637 and 671 added
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Hi
You do know this a Ex Press Car right?
It is on my list (Page 5). It was in Auto express and i do have a copy. Feel free to message me a email address and i can send the picture of it.
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Good to see this car getting some love.
Are you aware its an Ex Vw Press Car. I don't have a article for what it was in. But can confirm it is a press car.
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4 hours ago, lupogtiboy said:
I don't think I can go now either, I'm working! D'oh!
Sorry to hear that. Maybe another time....
11 hours ago, mk2 said:I'm going to see if I can organise my 3 Lupos to join in. But, being two hours from home plus a two hour lap, turns this into a 6h of driving day. So not sure TBH. There aren't many of us living near to the start-finish point.
Ok no worries.
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Hi all
So i thought i'd check in. This is still happening.
Start will be at South Mimms service station. I can be there from 9am to depart at 10am to do the lap. This will give time to fill your car up at the petrol station if required.. Do the lap. Once the lap is done (not getting off at South Mimms) we head to Burger King or Mcdonalds Enfield (parking rules at South Mimms)
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So having look around. Alot of places don't even sell that size. But its something i have monitored on/off.
So two options have come up.
ATS Euromaster seem to imply they can get them but you have to order them pairs. https://www.atseuromaster.co.uk/tyres/toyo/proxes-tr1/205-45-r15-81-v
Demontweaks have said stock is due in but can take up to 60 days. https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/toyo-proxes-tr1-tyre-2005832/
I hope this helps. I will keep looking into this
Further to this. I used the Toyo branch locators. None of them seem to get 205/45/r15
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Laser blue is super rare. From what i have seen and can coberate. Only 5 ever made it to the UK. None of which i doubt the owners would sell any time soon.
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3 hours ago, Si22le said:
Hi,
I am the new owner of the above lupo X757 HKY
It's my first car and I had no idea how rare it was.
It will be very well looked after and cared for
Good too hear. The reason generally why colour concepts for a lupo are rare is the option was around £2000 when new. Very few people took this up. A couple of the cars where Ex-Vw Press fleet. We don't have a exact number but the list is guide for known examples/interiors.
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Hi all
We are looking to do this on the 1st July. How does this sound?
Many thanks
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Anthracite GTI in Finchley
in Spotted
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1. 54 is a bit of a tricky one is most cases as it borders onto 05 year cars. But as we know there was only 2 05 antharcites. From the info i have its around 16 2004 cars.
2. I have a number of 33 from 2009 and the list i have compares very close to that.
3. I do not have a exact answer on this but due to the rarity i think the majority of the anthracite one are still around.