I've driven the 182, its quite pokey and felt really solid on the road, the only downside is the build quality and the interior, then theres the depreciation to consider! As for the 1.8t, all that work and not a lot of return kind of puts me off I think i'd prefer to get something thats standerd, not really big on modding these days The VX is still the number one and Im 99% sure thats where im off to next I was just interested on where people have been or plan to go after the lupo really Are there any member left on here that have gone to a vx? I'd love to hear some experiences, I heard the rattle a bit, probably the major thing putting me off considering what I was used to!