thanks bud, haven't done alot lately - been doing engine swaps on other cars. well it's due for MOT on wednesday, got a new tyre coming tomorrow so thought i'd tidy up the front bumper a bit. started the process of smoothing the bumper so roughed up the grooved area then set about sorting out the centre cut out to fill it in, after a bit of thoght i thought it best to make an ally brace dso i could shape the bumper to the correct curve heating and moulding the bumper as i went. spliced the flat part to bring it up then with the heat gun shaped the lip over the top of the brace then pop riveted it into place. than trial fitted it to see if it needed tweeking, it seemed fine so roughed it up and flattened it out a bit then offered it up on the car again it seemed close to where i want it so started plastic welding the cut outs in thats it for now, might do a bit more tomorrow. Olly