jon_273 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Pull the socket out into the footwell. Plug in the scangauge, and then push all the wiring back up into the gap behind the heater controls Edited January 14, 2014 by jon_273 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Pull the socket out into the footwell. Plug in the scangauge, and then push all the wiring back up into the gap behind the heater controls That doesn't sound too hard. The main reason I asked is obviously it's still pretty important to retain some access to OBD in case of VAGCOM or whatever. However I think I'll have a pop at that and mount it tonight. Once you unclipped it, how did you pull it into the footwell, was it a case of jamming your hand down the back of the central column? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yes, I just put my hand up and fished around for the cable. Bit fiddly but you'll find it eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Jon what's the weather like there. My car is getting to 88c and no more but it's frosty ATM. I have just changed the stat but I don't know why it's so cold considering the block. Skezza you need to block that ASAP. 69c is cold. Block it up till your temps get near 89c and see if mpg improves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 It's been around 3 degC really, no colder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Jon what's the weather like there. My car is getting to 88c and no more but it's frosty ATM. I have just changed the stat but I don't know why it's so cold considering the block.Skezza you need to block that ASAP. 69c is cold. Block it up till your temps get near 89c and see if mpg improves.What's the routine for blocking then? Do you put something behind the grill or in front? I think this explains quite a lot tbh. Edited January 14, 2014 by Skezza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 What's the routine for blocking then? Do you put something behind the grill or in front? I think this explains quite a lot tbh.I put something infront as its easier to remove. If you have a lupo pipe insulation cut in half might be ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 It's been around 3 degC really, no colder.I wonder why yours gets hot. Actually it could just be I smash the heater when it's cold. But saying that I had it on hottest but no fans and it was still 88-89c. Jon no blocking or anything to the radiator is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I put something infront as its easier to remove. If you have a lupo pipe insulation cut in half might be ok?What's ideal? Some clear plastic? What do you hold them with? Cable ties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170998858938Bought one of these, going to see if I can hack it so I can keep a diagnostics port and still keep the scanguage permanently plugged in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 What's ideal? Some clear plastic? What do you hold them with? Cable ties?Just wedge em in. When I'm on the pc il get you some links. Oh also please let me know how the Y splitter works once it comes. That would be ideal for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Will do is an SDI Diesela or Dieselb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Will do is an SDI Diesela or DieselbI'm not sure. There is a test with gph you can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I'm not sure. There is a test with gph you can do. been told it's probably diesela. Anyway, what's the crack with grill blocking? It was 69 again tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickpercy87 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 What MPG are you guys getting, then? I'm interested in your figures:35MPH in 5th (Alot of flat roads around here)55MPH70MPHAlso, why the heck does my temp never raise above 82 degrees?! Even in the summer. Iv'e looked all over for a better thermostat but can't find one for the tdi. Are they just generic or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 been told it's probably diesela. Anyway, what's the crack with grill blocking? It was 69 again tonight.Ok so here is a few picture but google will give you better results. Basically cut the pipe insulation in half and stuff it in. Either on the slats or better is inbetween the slats IMO. InbetweenWhat MPG are you guys getting, then? I'm interested in your figures:35MPH in 5th (Alot of flat roads around here)55MPH70MPHAlso, why the heck does my temp never raise above 82 degrees?! Even in the summer. Iv'e looked all over for a better thermostat but can't find one for the tdi. Are they just generic or something?Could be your thermostat is gone or maybe your just not driving for long or fast enough? Alot of variables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Do you suggest blocking both the upper and lower grills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I've only blocked the lower since on the arosa most of the radiator is there plus there is still some air indirectly getting to the engine. Might block half of the top though to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Going buy some cheap pipe insulation and give this a try. What should I be aiming for as a temperature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_273 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I wonder why yours gets hot. Actually it could just be I smash the heater when it's cold. But saying that I had it on hottest but no fans and it was still 88-89c. Jon no blocking or anything to the radiator is there?91C was what the Scangauge said was the max, it normally sits at 89. I have no grill blocking - it's totally standard.I fitted a new genuine thermostat a couple of years ago as it started taking longer to warm up. It made no difference. Turned out the decat seems to make it take longer to warm up. Presumably due to less backpressure and therefore less load on the engine at low rpm's.Like you say you must smash the heater, I rarely have mine past half way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'm going to fit my grill block in a bit, I'll take photos. I bought 22mm pipe insulation instead of 15mm. The 15mm looked a little bit on the small side but I'm thinking perhaps I should have got it instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I think I should have bought 15mm pipe insulation. Mine felt too big really, and I ended up having to break some of it to jam it in. Some even fell through :\ and I'm half expecting most of this to fall off on the way home. Oh well, homebase is selling pipe insulation, 5 pieces for about £3. The smaller is £2.50 ish, I can always rip this off and get a few more other pieces in the smaller size.I've also bought a Halfords antifreeze tester, £1.99, one of these crappy floaty ball ones. Going to give my anti-freeze a quick check when I get chance. I did check it earlier but I think I did the test wrong as there's a bit of air in the top of the pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Well it's a cheap mod either way so it's easily replaced as you say. Let us know how your temps get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I like your grill block Skezza, it looks as botched as mine. My temp with grill blocking is still 80c. Might need a new thermostat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 OK well, my first two long drives with a grill block. The left (as you look at the picture) single piece fell off lol but turns out there isn't any actual vents there so not sure why I put a block lol I'm not even sure there's vents on the right either haha.The first thing I noticed was the car definitely warms up a lot quicker. It's now more like how my petrol used to warm up. Before the grill block it would take a few miles before I noticed the temp gauge even started moving but now within a mile or two, it's already where it would normally sit. Secondly, the ambient temperature in the car is definitely warmer. Normally I don't have the heater on, but I do have the heater control set to hot, but last night it got a bit too warm in the cabin so I had to set it to half. Not a big thing, just worth noting. I reckon on a really really really cold day those heaters will feel amazing as they must be blowing hotter air So, I was getting roughly 69 degrees average before when doing my standard route to work, mostly 60mph, couple of 30 zones through my town centre and then the town I work in. Driving home last night, the car quickly got up to 86 degrees, continued to gradually rise and eventually stopped at about 89 to 90. As I slowed down through the town, it got to 93 degrees and then I pulled up. One thing I noticed, the fan at the front of the car was whirring when I got out but stopped after about 10 seconds. It's never been on before, I'm actually surprised it still works lol. So yeah, peaked at 93 but spent most of it's time at about 89.Driving in today was more interesting though. The car quickly got up to 86 again, and slowly rose to 90 as I expected. The highest it got when moving at speed was 92 when I was doing about 50mph however it dropped back to 90 as soon as I overtook the truck holding me up. Here's where it gets weird though. As I got to the town where I work, there was more traffic than usual so I knew the engine temp would rise as I crawled through. I wasn't too concerned, but I was keeping an eye on the coolant temp in case it got a bit too hot. It rose up to 94 and stopped... then it ticked for a second onto 95 degrees and immediately plummeted to about 86 degrees. I thought that's odd, perhaps a piece of grill block has fallen off. However, further on as I was about to park up, I waited till it hit 95 again and yup, sure thing, it dropped to 86 degrees within seconds.So is that the thermostat kicking in or the fan or what? It seems a bit late for the thermostat and a bit harsh too, but surely the fan wouldn't make anywhere near that kind of difference. There's no way a fan can shift 9 degrees in a few seconds... is there? Perhaps a bloody industrial fan... It's worth noting that when I got out of the car, the coolant temp was probably 86 degrees and the fan wasn't running, so surely that all points to the thermostat kicking in very late? Any other reason why it would lose nearly 9 degrees of heat so quickly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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