CLAYTONJONES Posted August 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, LR5V said: Thanks - will check the brakes and discs out - didn't realise euros did Brembo discs Yeah if you go under the performance section they are there. Also, if you copy the product code and search it on Carparts4less, they are normally cheaper as well👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy26 Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 On 7/25/2018 at 3:27 PM, CLAYTONJONES said: Well i’m back from a long weekend at the Nürburgring, if you have never been I highly advise you to go. The most incredible place i’ve ever been, a petrol heads dream! The Lupo performed faultlessly and not a single issue! Oh and the tyre writing didn’t last, a permanent solution is being worked on. I’ll leave a few pictures below?? p Look of the car and these pics are just great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLAYTONJONES Posted October 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 Finally got the freshly powder costed rear beam back, so i got it all built back up today. Went and had the alignment done, came out spot on. car drives incredible now! Just waiting for the RARB brackets to turn up then that can go back on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR5V Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 Looking great - what bushes did you go for? and those discs also look tasty Cant remember what rear ARB you run - if its a Whiteline the drop links go on the outside of the beam like on mine: I wish my shocks were more like yours being not so crusty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLAYTONJONES Posted October 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, LR5V said: Looking great - what bushes did you go for? and those discs also look tasty Cant remember what rear ARB you run - if its a Whiteline the drop links go on the outside of the beam like on mine: I wish my shocks were more like yours being not so crusty! I went for OEM. Purely because i don’t want the ride being any stiffer than it is. Yeah it is a whiteline, glad you posted that as I couldn’t remember haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj1 Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 Really loving the attention to detail on this. looking good. What did you get the front alignment set to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLAYTONJONES Posted October 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, cj1 said: Really loving the attention to detail on this. looking good. What did you get the front alignment set to? Thanks! Sorry i thought i added the alignment sheet, i’ll put it in now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mk2 Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 Front subframe needs to be moved a tiny amount if the caster is out. Right side needs to go forward. No idea how to easily work out by how much. I'd try about 2 mm to start. I s'pose you could measure everything then do the geometry maths.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLAYTONJONES Posted October 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, mk2 said: Front subframe needs to be moved a tiny amount if the caster is out. Right side needs to go forward. No idea how to easily work out by how much. I'd try about 2 mm to start. I s'pose you could measure everything then do the geometry maths.... I didn’t know the castor could be adjusted on these, handy to know for next time👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLAYTONJONES Posted October 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 So I took the car to a Local place called Hybrid Tune today to have it Dyno'd. Purely to see where i'm at before I fit all the parts.It made a healthy 140bhp and 121lb/ft. Really pleased with these numbers considering it is still on the standard map!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B0HawE9dR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR5V Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 Solid figures - is it Exhaust manifold + system and filter all you have had done engine wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLAYTONJONES Posted October 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, LR5V said: Solid figures - is it Exhaust manifold + system and filter all you have had done engine wise? Yeah i was pleased! Thats it, fresh engine rebuild a couple of years ago so that must take part 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 Nah, not good enough. You're leaning out at high revs (assuming the probe is fast). Also too rich at low revs. My guess is that you need bigger injectors. Or fuel pump. Or both. You will be able to get at least another 20hp and a decent amount more torque too. Look at the torque plot- best torque when mix was ideal (14.7ish) 3-3500 RPM. Too rich and too lean it drops. May want add a load of timing too. Your plenum is designed for high RPMs so it is clear you need to change the torque plot- almost like there's a fault right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLAYTONJONES Posted October 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 8 hours ago, mk2 said: Nah, not good enough. You're leaning out at high revs (assuming the probe is fast). Also too rich at low revs. My guess is that you need bigger injectors. Or fuel pump. Or both. You will be able to get at least another 20hp and a decent amount more torque too. Look at the torque plot- best torque when mix was ideal (14.7ish) 3-3500 RPM. Too rich and too lean it drops. May want add a load of timing too. Your plenum is designed for high RPMs so it is clear you need to change the torque plot- almost like there's a fault right now. Definitely no fault, i’m sure all of that will be dealt with when it’s getting mapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR5V Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 What rating are Gti injectors? - funny that this crops up now, I had been trying to find out without any luck. I would be tempted to grab some standard Mk4 Golf1.8t ones they are good for 220bhp, that is if they fit. Got this pump sitting in my ebay wish list Sytec Hi In-Tank Fuel Injection Pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLAYTONJONES Posted October 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, LR5V said: What rating are Gti injectors? - funny that this crops up now, I had been trying to find out without any luck. I would be tempted to grab some standard Mk4 Golf1.8t ones they are good for 220bhp, that is if they fit. Got this pump sitting in my ebay wish list Sytec Hi In-Tank Fuel Injection Pump I’ve heard from several people that the GTI ones are good for 190-200bhp🤷🏼♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR5V Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 3 hours ago, CLAYTONJONES said: I’ve heard from several people that the GTI ones are good for 190-200bhp🤷🏼♂️ Depends on what engine they are from - https://18t-tuning.co.uk/fuel-advice/injectors-and-recommendations/ - if I was getting used injectors I would be looking for ARZ, AUM, AUQ type, a lot more common / easier to source. I am fortunate to have a great fixed price scrap yard not far from me with great prices How much power are you shooting for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLAYTONJONES Posted October 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 hours ago, LR5V said: Depends on what engine they are from - https://18t-tuning.co.uk/fuel-advice/injectors-and-recommendations/ - if I was getting used injectors I would be looking for ARZ, AUM, AUQ type, a lot more common / easier to source. I am fortunate to have a great fixed price scrap yard not far from me with great prices How much power are you shooting for? I’d like to make the 160 mark but who knows! Do you know what yours is running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 Bigger injectors make it more difficult to get a good smooth idle. The pulses need to be much shorter to deliver the same amount of fuel which makes the mixture erratic. So you need to think how much traffic driving you'll be doing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR5V Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 19 hours ago, CLAYTONJONES said: I’d like to make the 160 mark but who knows! Do you know what yours is running? the PO didn't mention anything about changing them - I think they are standard, just ran out and took this picture, its dark if there is an obvious PN I have missed it!: 11 hours ago, mk2 said: Bigger injectors make it more difficult to get a good smooth idle. The pulses need to be much shorter to deliver the same amount of fuel which makes the mixture erratic. So you need to think how much traffic driving you'll be doing..... Yes, but DBW throttle and lambda sensors should keep it reasonably in shape. Slightly related - I was expecting idle to be lumpy with my bigger cams, but there is nothing to suggest its got them at idle, just the same as my Golf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLAYTONJONES Posted October 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 Yesterday, me and a good friend of mine spent the day fitting the new parts to the Lupo. Port match and gas flowed head, polished inlet manifold and a set of Piper cams. Also had the cam cover and inlet powder coated black, looks much better IMO. I didn’t get as much pictures as i’d of liked but we just wanted to crack on. Took it for a run to London last night to give the cams some time to bed in. Car drives perfectly! Mapping is on the 21st November with Wayne at ChipWizards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR5V Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 Good work - standard intake takes up so much space What spec of cams did you go for & did you get any info on the injectors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLAYTONJONES Posted November 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 On 10/28/2018 at 1:02 PM, LR5V said: Good work - standard intake takes up so much space What spec of cams did you go for & did you get any info on the injectors? Just realised I didn’t reply to this, standard injectors are 190cc. More than capable with mods I have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLAYTONJONES Posted November 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) Update time: 21st November, mapping day. We made the 4 and a half hour journey to Manchester the night before ready for the morning. Drove over there for 9.00am, chatted to Wayne for an hour before putting the car on the dyno. Wayne done some pre-checks and his diagnostic tool flagged up a fault code i hadn’t seen before, “Camshaft position actuator malfunction” - great! Wayne pulled the VVT solenoid out and put some power through, turns out it was working so the problem is else where. Without this working its pointless to attempt mapping, so i made my way home and said i’ll figure it out and come back. So I get home, I had a spare VVT solenoid I thought i’d try, plugged it and took for a drive, an instant different in mid range power! I took it back out to compare them, turns out the holes for the oil were different so they wasn’t matching up to the holes on the head. Who ever sold me the head over a year ago now, we can only assume it was off a different 16v engine that uses a different solenoid, luckily the spare one I had was the one I got sent with the head. So after all that it was a simple fix that cost me nothing, other than a load of fuel wasted. I got back in contact with Wayne straight away to let him know the good news, he said he was free Friday. Confirmed it with him and made the early journey back up early Friday. We got it back on the Dyno, checked everything over and all was good! Wayne set to work, it’s a difficult ECU to map so it took all day, but the results are good! It made 159bhp, around 34bhp over a standard car! The biggest gains were through the midrange, around 3-4k before the map it was making about 80bhp, after the map it now makes 110 at 3-4. The rev limiter has also been raised from 6700 to 7300, thats where all the power is! Safe to say I am over the moon, I highly recommend anyone to visit Wayne if you are looking to get a map done, the blokes been mapping cars longer than i’ve been alive! He goes above and beyond! Just been out for a spirited drive, the car is an absolute weapon now. The extra revs allows me to to save upshifting on certain straight i previously had to! Overall, extremely happy! Edited November 24, 2018 by CLAYTONJONES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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