starbank Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 At my local stealer there is a R32 ex demo for £20,995 - looks gorgeous and that V6 engine is pure music to the ears. But, you can buy a brand new Golf Gti for £22,000. Again, looks stunning especially in anthracite. Which would you have?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty b-road Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 22k is a lot of money for a golf imo when I consider what else there is for that money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogwood Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I've had a go in both and the new GTI is the better car in every respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 New GTi for me... alough I sem to see one on every trip nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 There is crap loads of R32's up here. The other night when I was driving home I came up to a roundabout and there was 3 R32's on it at one time, each coming from different approaches.There are 2 of them at my work as well... common as muck!Seeing more new GTi's though each time I see one I still think that it is a fine looking piece of machinery. I see a dark grey one on the way home just about every night - just about everyone in the traffic is looking at it with admiring glances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikerz Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 i dissagree, i see a R32 and i get excited, Golf GTI are commen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Marky Marc Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 for me it would be the R32.... people say there are a lot about but its the same as the lupo GTI... they are out there but not that many of them realy.....if the R32 has leather and cruse control then snap it up quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 New (MkV) GTI's aren't that COMMON though4WD makes sense for up here thats maybe why there are so many R32's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 lots of cheaper cars that are more fun to drive, if you want a 4x4 VAG the S3 is probably better and going to cost less to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starbank Posted April 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 There is something special about the R32 though, exclusivity, quality, performance, subtle styling etc. My best mate works at Nissan and he gets all sorts of inside industry information and gossip. He's just `e-mailed` me as follows......"I know this will sound ridiculous but from what I’ve seen from inside the industry I absolutely promise you that the R32 will be better built from better quality materials than the new GTI.Every time a new model is released the principle concern is how can we make this car cheaper to produce than the last one. The industry has a ridiculous marketing standard called “Perceived Quality” this is whether people “feel” it is a quality product and often bears no relation to whether it actually is a quality product or not.So the new Golf have to be made from cheaper materials – it is simply a fact of life".I love the new GTi, especially the DSG box but personally the R32 is more special and seriously worth considering. I always like the Audi S3 but compared to the R32 there's only one choice for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty b-road Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 For me, the plastics in golf 5 gti dash and door cards is crapThe Mk4 wasn't the best drive in the world but the dash plastic was lovelyThe Mk5 is a better drive (apparently) but the plastic is recycled from a 1980 Austin Montego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I think the R32 is cooler as a car icon but Golf is better car I am sure.... as for build quality/materials I think your friend is only part correct - time drives cost down as does volume, so no reason why the new golf wont be at the same standard as the old golf, just costs less to produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogwood Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Did the Volkswagen Driver track day at Croft last Saturday in the Lupo. Butchered every R32 there on the brakes and in the bends. even the tricked up ones. Had a bit of a tussle with Milteks MK5 and it was very good everywhere. Drivers could make a difference obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starbank Posted April 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 To be honest for £20k there's not an awful not out there that I personally would be interested in. Scoobies and Evo's are not my cup of tea and 2 seater sports cars are hopelessly impractical. The TT is getting on a bit and as common as muck. The 350Z and RX8 are nice but just don't hit the spot for me. Would be tempted with a Leon Cupra R but then I think I'll wait for the new version to hit the showrooms. The new Megane 225 which has been finely honed for a better driving experience looks a good bet too - but then it's French. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 So much choice in that range....2nd hand M5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starbank Posted April 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I agreed, plenty of choice if you want a 3 or 4 year old barnstormer like the M5 or RS4 but personally I would prefer to spend that kind of money on a car about `8-12` months old, with a warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris260 Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Golf GTi for me too, no way would i bother with an R32 since i drove the mk5. Not sure that the R32 will be better built than the gti although it could be the case i bet there wouldn't be much in it. Have you driven the gti yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starbank Posted April 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I've not driven either the R32 or GTi yet but I intend to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 2 blokes from my home town had R32's - one sold it as he hated it (was slower than his remapped TDi anniversary), the other traded it in for a mkV GTI as soon as he could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starbank Posted April 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Has anyone driven the Passat W8? Now they are a weird and completely mental beast! Should be able to pick one up for £20K as the depreciation is abysmal. I've only ever seen 2 - both at a dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 There are actually 2 or 3 I see regularly around here - I think the consumption figures might be something to do with the depreciation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 only ever seen 1, in a show room..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Actually looking at trader, you can pick one up for about 12K!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 no way! whats the stats like?soon gonna be able to build by rear engined W8 lupo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossjohnc Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 2002 VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT 4.0 W8 4MOTION 4dr Saloon,Petrol, 33,000 miles, . Six speed manual, 4 wheel drive. Metallic blue.Electric Nappa Leather Recaros - heated front and rear. Trip computer, CD Changer, Multifunction steering wheel, cruise, full winter pack inc Xenon headlamps. Excellent condition. 6 months warranty, full VW service history. Very reluctant sale. May p/x for cheaper Golf V6 4motion. £12,750 . ono. :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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