tshirt2k Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Looking to upgrade the System. Iv'e Got components which ive had for a while (unused). Just Want a single amp to run the lot. Was thinking of something american? (RF, Phoenix gold) Can anyone suggest anything?? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> :?P.s I don.t really want to use it TRi way. Just something that you can use two channels for the fronts and bridge for the sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 What componnts are they mate?What sub are you wanting to use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshirt2k Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Ive got infinity kappa 65.5 cs rated at 90 wrms, aint got a sub yet. I want something small to keep some space in the back. or maybe i could do wiv them 5 " focals. Can't imagine Subs that small giving a good sound?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dude trust me, when you think about it, a 10" sub has 10" of cone area.Obvious really, that 2 x 5" subs have the same cone area as one 10" sub.You can also take a look at Crystals 8" COMP this is fantastic, but it needs alot of power to move it. So in turn, the amp is going to be more expencive.How much do you want to spend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 And mate. They sound flipping fantastic!If I knew about them before I bought the Crystal I would have bought 4 of them and saved losing the entire boot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshirt2k Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 I was thinking something like thishttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...885491&tc=photoor thishttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...885251&tc=photoWhat do you reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshirt2k Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 I Like the idea of two hidden behid the rear panels. I just haven't had a look behind there to see whats there. But I like the look of the crystal too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 The Crystal is fantastic, Me and Loud Lupo heard one in a 0.6 cuft sealed fibre glass enclosure. He was giving it 400wrms but IMO it could have done with a little more.It sounded better than any other sub I have ever heard, you wouldnt even know there was a sub.By that I meen it blended so well with the rest of his system.The Rockford amp would be fine for the Crystal sub and your comps, the PG looks the same power but if yu look at the volts the amp was tested at (14.4v) you'll never get no where near that sort of wattage.Its not a bad price though.Im just not a huge fan of PG amps.I know nothing of the Rockford amp, all I can comment on is my amp, which seems to have the same componants as that, the power supply is the same. Im really impressed with the 801s but I just cant help thinking the amp seems a lttle expencive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Sorry forgot to add, if you were looking at the Focals, then the PG would be fine to power them as its 2ohm stable when bridged.The Rockford isnt.At 2ohm this will give you 400wrms if you were gonna power the focals.With the Crystal being a single 4ohm coil, you'll only get 200wrms from the amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshirt2k Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 lovely mate. great info. got any other suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Just looking now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dude Im stumped.I cant find anything with no where near as much power for under £450 never mind £350!Its all gonna be down to what sub mate.If you want the Focals, then the PG would be what to go for.If you want the Crystal then the RF would be needed.Im stunned theres nothing any cheaper out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Id go for the focals mate. Be different. Besides, im a fan of PG amps (sorry andi) They make toss subs but there amps are well solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dude trust me, when you think about it, a 10" sub has 10" of cone area.Obvious really, that 2 x 5" subs have the same cone area as one 10" sub.Obvious and very very wrong? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 oops sorry keep forgetting the size of them they are 4" not 5"!!!!!!!!ok same cone area as an 8" sub! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Still very very wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 if you made you point instead of makeing mini comments I may know what your talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 That would be boring! border="0" class="linked-image" /> border="0" class="linked-image" />Secondly, you're saying that if you have a sufficient number of 5 inch speakers (which we can now see is more than two, but that's not the point here), you can get the same sound as from a 10 inch speaker.To extend this to the limit, do you think you could get the same sound as Max's sub just by getting sufficient `1-inch` speakers together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 *Hands up*Never looked at the cones like that.Drivers of diffrent size will never give the same sound, which if you read through my posts Snoop I have never said it will.But there is no reason to say that a smaller driver will give a loss in preformance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshirt2k Posted October 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 tisgz. Do you know of anywhere online i can get the subs fairly cheap ?? Either the Focals or the Comp8.. I need some bass. Gotta decide what to have tho :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 The Focals you can get from source Sounds in sheffield.If theres anyone else out there wants two, he will do me a really good deal on four of them.Best place to buy the crystal is direct from www.bladeice.co.uk they are the main Crystal supplier.They supply CAD.Just called him, he only has the 10" in stock.But will have an 8" in stock next week.Call him on 01908 610441 his name is Am He suggested a sealed box 0.3cuft or a ported box tuned to 30hz at 0.6I would strongly suggest porting it, the cmp we heard was sealed, ported would be flipping fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 oh ya I'll get the phone number for source sounds when I get home this afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshirt2k Posted October 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 your a star mate. just gotta choose what to get? Decisions, Decisions lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Thinking about it, Id probably go for the Crystal sub and that RF amp.Port the sub and you will have an extremly powerful system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshirt2k Posted October 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 yeah i was thinking the same . The fiberglass will have to come out again.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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