Good Set Up

[DanK]

Hi guys, have seen quite a few of you are in the know when it comes to installs, now i need a bit of help, im useless with ICE so im after some recommendations of products to go for.

Im after some good bass but i don't want it overpowering the lyrics, i would ideally only like 1 sub but i want it a decent make and decent quality.

This is my budget for each product, anything else i need please feel free to add.

Headunit - £150

Amp - £150

Sub - £200

Components - 100

Wiring - £50?

I wont be buying everything at once but ill get bits and bobs here and when i have everything i need ill get it all installed.

These are just some rough budgets but obviously a bit cheaper is good.

I could also stretch say £100 more on each product but only if the product is alot better if you understand what i mean?

Any help would be great, thanks alot

Edited October 18, 2008 by DanK

[nfbr]

Spend more on the head unit and more on the amps... They are the most important bits. Don't skimp on cheep cables either, remember A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

[DanK]

Spend more on the head unit and more on the amps... They are the most important bits. Don't skimp on cheep cables either, remember A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

Thanks for that, i really have no idea so im grateful for any help, how much should i budget for a headunit and amp then?

£250 amp

£200 headunit?

£100 cables?

This looks like its turning out to be quite pricey

But then again im looking to buy things one at a time so i won't be getting everything at once, i couldn't afford that

[little rich]

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/alpine-cda...3gk1sns2ujb5sr2

i have that head unit, great little thing and has everything you will need! highly reccomend it,

rich

[DanK]

Anyone recommend me some decent products in my price range?

Its mainly the components, amp and sub which i need help with...

[L4RRY]

Anyone recommend me some decent products in my price range?

Its mainly the components, amp and sub which i need help with...

It depends - Are you looking for a crystal clear sound or do you just want something to beef up the back end of you sound?

Maybe start looking at headunits with the correct number of pre-outs you'll probably only need 2 but going up to 4 won't affect the price alot. From there make sure it's got all the basics (everything you're looking for) and then begin picking out the most respectable manufacturers i.e Sony, Kenwood, JVC, Pioneer. They're all pretty good and you know they'll do the job so long as you don't go low end.. £150 worth would do it!

If you're not looking for an install as such and just fairly decent equipment, maybe have a look at some low-mid Alpine or high end FLI. Can't go wrong with anything in between really either! Put aside £200 max!

I can't really go into subs.. Wayyy too much choice. I get some sh*t from 2X10" JBL powered by 400watt FLI.. I've never gone far wrong with that sort of size. If you do decide to use 2 subs I reccomend hunting around for some slimline casing!

Other than that, spend as much on wiring as you can, if that f*cks everything else was a waste of money! Wouldn't say over £100 but try and stay away from halfords wiring kits (for obvious reasons)

Hope this helped a bit, any other problems lemme know!

(if you're lucky enough to be able to get everything by the same manufacturer within your budget you're definately onto a winner )

Larry

[DanK]

Thanks for that mate, ive decided on getting some good quality components for the time being, im assuming ill need a amp to run these for best quality?

Anyone recommend some good components? Would definatly like some bass but not so much that it distorts the lyrics

[Icegeezer]

Run a decent head unit £200...

A 2 channel amp for your components and a good set of components, allow about £300-£400 for this...

another mono amp with a sub and box.. again another £300 or so for this...

Then Cables and please please dont forget sound deadening...

you can easily allow another £200 for this...

so yeah ok its about a grand...

you wont be disapointed and certainly wont need much more...

Best thing is to allow a max budget... from this allow 25% min for cables & sound deadening...

all of the components are vital, if you cut corners on one item, it will have a direct knowk on effect...

feel free to add me to msn if you need help...

Cheers

[DanK]

Thanks for all the comments, ive decided to get some components at the moment and see how i feel with those.

Anyone recommend some good quality components?

[mike312]

I've got a set of focal components in the back and they sound great, gonna upgrade the fronts aswell. I bought a 10" sub (which I've never heard of) and an Alpine 2 chanel amp bridged to run it. The head unit is a high end Pioneer with 4 x 50w. People tell me it sounds ok, I think you've got to have very good hearing to tell the difference between a lot of systems. The main problem I get is my door cards rattling distorting the bass.

[scoobydoo]

compnent wise id go for something like diamond audio or rainbow. and a decent amp to run them. will give u a good set up to build from.

[DanK]

Was looking at rainbow, heard good things....

Links? I don't know what to look for, someone post some links up of some good components and amp to run them please, i would be very grateful

[scoobydoo]

how much u got for compnents.. the prices at the top r all over the place...??

£100-£120

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/rainbow-slx265-p-3853.html

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/alpine-spr17s-p-5662.html - i have the old version of these and think they r great..

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/diamond-au...161-p-6035.html

bit more £160

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/dynamics-hf62-p-5777.html

and a bit more £200

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/alpine-spx17ref-p-6224.html

tbh its best if u hear the products in ur price range as if u dont have finely tuned ears u might not notice much difference between £100 and £200 whjereas someone who really nos wat they r on about would..

amp wise ive been looking at one of these..

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/harman-kar...280-p-6542.html - they make quality stuff

also

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/alpine-pdx2150-p-5308.html

i think those amps r good if u rnt that handy at making installs as if u r goin to put a sub in the boot then u can get another alpine amp in that series and they join together as a stack.

hope this helps

Glen

Edited November 4, 2008 by scoobydoo

[GLIDN]

This could be a very good setup for anyone that owns a Lupo

Headunit - Alpine 9887 - Just spend the money you will thank yourself for it.

Front Speakers - Infinity Kappa 60.7CS - These have a super small magnets, sound awesome and are super smooth (just run tweeter on -3db, dependant

on tweeter location.

Alpine SPS-600C or something along those lines. - i can recommend at least a dozen good component sets.

Digital Design Model "DD C6.2" Big magnet, Speakers are good and like getting fed 100wrms, cross-overs are abit crappy and tweeter

too harsh - Would recommend replacing with Better Cross-over and Tweeters.

For Amp, get a grunty amp around the 100wrms x 4 @ 4ohm. E-Audio, Caliber, DLS, Alpine, Fusion FP-1404 (but it's big in size)

Sub duty get one of these 2:

Resonant Engineering (RE Audio) - model is "RE8" ( Managed 141db from 2 of these)

Polk Audio MM2084

Both only require 0.35ft3 Box but work wonders in a 0.5ft3 box.

This will more than satisfy majority of people.

Hope this helps you guys out, Means it's light weight and also can get plenty load and best of all use as little boot space as possible.

[Tigz™]

Digital Design Model "DD C6.2" Big magnet, Speakers are good and like getting fed 100wrms, cross-overs are abit crappy and tweeter

too harsh - Would recommend replacing with Better Cross-over and Tweeters.

Mate has these in his VX220.

Really, really nice sound from the mids.

[DanK]

Right crimbo is coming up and seeing as ive thought of nothing i actually want i thought ide ask for a headunit and some components.

I really like the look of this headunit and have some good features which i like

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/p...ts_id/8301.html

Im after some good quality components too, need to be no more than £150

Would i need an amp to run components? I understand i need the adapter to fit 16.5cm components so ide get that too.

Need to decide pretty quick as christmas is coming up and i need to tell the parents on which ones to buy

[little rich]

that HU is pretty cool, quite OEM , bit cheaper at CAD if this is any good to you,

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/pioneer-fh...o3akef3d0076gi6

as for the components it would be best to run them off an amp so that you can get the best out of them, but if money is tight you could just run them off the HU and get an amp when you can afford one,

Rich,

[DanK]

Thanks mate, yeah i thought that too, the blue lighting goes with the dials and looks nice a sleek.

Could anyone recommend me some good components for under £150? I listen to alot of drum and bass so im after some nice bass from the components, the girlfriend likes pretty much anything so they would need to be a good all rounder.

I thought ide need an amp, can anyone recommend a decent one to run the components?

[dubsy]

if money wasnt an issue id recommend these

rainbow cs 275 power comps which is what i run in the front of my lupo total power hungry monsters but there is a cheaper alternative in these

rockford fosgate t162s you can import them off ebay for about £112 plus £40 packaging and a small duty fee you will not find anything that will touch them near this price not cheaper rainbows, diamonds, focal access nothing they sound awesome will do sq and go loud very loud, adam rayner scored them 9.2 out of 10 on a talk audio reveiw and he knows his stuff

[DanK]

Need some off the shelf products really mate, you know what parents are like, what to make it as simple as i can by just giving her the website and saying, these, for xmas, thank you mother

£150 is an absolute maximum! Ideally £100 would be good but i guess she can stretch to 150

Also a amp to run the components would be good, not planning on getting a sub so just a good enough amp to run the components is all im after

[DanK]

Anyone? Need to find some pretty quick so any suggestions for my budget would be very much appreciated

[scoobydoo]

i like the headunit. its nice and simple looking. i run a pioneer too and it fits perfect with the dial colours.

as for speakers i run alpine sprs which i like and they can b bassy if u giv them full range.

mine r the old version of these

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/alpine-spr17s-p-5662.html

cant fault them at all.

also bit cheaper and a serious quality make...rainbows

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/rainbow-slx265-p-3853.html

and again..diamond audio proper quality make too....although i heard the alu tweeter can be a little harsh..

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/diamond-au...161-p-6035.html

and then an amp to run them

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/alpine-mrpt222-p-5748.html

i use the above but its built for 14.4 volts and the lupo runs jus over 12v so u lose some power.... mayb

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/kicker-dx1002-p-6507.html - depending on how much u have to spend

or this. bit more power to giv the speakers a bit more punch.

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/kicker-dx3002-p-6508.html

cheers

Glen

Edited December 2, 2008 by scoobydoo

[Tigz™]

if money wasnt an issue id recommend these

rainbow cs 275 power comps which is what i run in the front of my lupo

Id put my XXX mids up against yours any day

[DanK]

Thanks for the help, im going to ask for the Rainbow SLX265's, would that be a good choice?

I know i need the adapter ring but is there anything else i need apart from some sound deadening?

Im not sure what amp is suitable to run the rainbow components as im totally clueless when it comes to ICE.

Also what have people done with their tweeters? Are the standard ones fine as i don't want to mess around with ripping them out as their in a tricky place.

[Gazzard]

while were on this topic... what sort of set up is good...

6x9s in parcel shelf...

tweeters in parcel shelf...

sub in boot...

components in doors?

will that sound good?.... then what do you amp up everything ?

as ur probably guess im a newbie xD