dazraz_uk Posted July 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 when you figure out how to put the shroud back on let me know as ive just got mine plapping about in the engine bay! :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payna Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 will do matey. my car has gotta get warranty work done ...again on sat morning, so when i put the bmc back on that afternoon il have a good look around at the back to see what i can do style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubDub Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 Well guys its on.... easier than i thought.One thing I must say.... let the engine cool 1st. the amount of times i burnt my hand, or picked up hot screws after leaving them on the engine....!Agree with the OE air box comments. I took out all the screws then had to go find a bloody allen key??Loving the sound for now and i think its a bit more responsive (it may just be the novelty speaking....or the Carling?)I to need to get some 60mm hosing and route it to the bumper. I cant wait :? Oh and that little red filter... does that go on the end of the little hose that went into the o.e filter too?I put the engine cover back on for now, simply cos there aint room in the house for it... dont think it moves around too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payna Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 haha... yeah i done that too, only with a hot spanner!i wasnt sure about the sound at first but its definatly grown on me. i got some hosing today from halfords, its only cheep stuff (£4.50 or sumthin) but it does the same job, so il be doing that next saturday afternoon! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 Mine's a bit quieter now I've routed it through the stock air pipe, rather than just having it floating in the engine bay.Piece of advice - I'd check the tightness of the jubilee clips after a couple of days, just to make sure they're fully tight. I was able to get a few more turns onto them yesterday, and if there's one thing you don't want, it's the pipe to the throttle body coming off!Helps to tighten them when the engine is hot, as the piping is more flexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payna Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 yep, well sed snoop... had my head in there today and the ducting to the standard air feed was loose, nothing that a screwdriver cant sort out in a few seconds rather than stuffing the engine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubDub Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Good Point about the screws. I noticed when the engine was idle that it shook a bit and that did come to mind.I may go to halfords today and pick up some of this hosing. Is it anything special I need?No one answered me bout that little filter thingie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payna Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 yeah that filter goes on the end of the tube that was pushed onto the original airbox.as for hosing, i just bought some 60mm dia stuff from halfords, it was about 4 and a half quid i think, but it is silver and not black. so it won't match the bmc hosing.60mm dia is aparently easy enough to route down to the mesh without causing too many problems, whereas 70mm is too big. but 60mm also fits onto the black adaptor thingy that was in the kit, which is handy.iam just gonna use a bit gaffa tape to put the bmc hosing together with the halfords stuff using that adaptor between them. should be ok and not look too messy. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubDub Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Panya, did you have to ask for that hosing at Halfords or was it on display sum where? I nipped in earlier and couldnt see anything. Mind you they were having a massive move around and looked like they were building a 2nd floor to the place.I also went into B & Q but could only find that stuff used for extractor fan venting and that was a wopping 100mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payna Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 no i didnt need to ask for it. it was on display, it was beside all the replacement air filters and other servicing stuff. although i have bought some before so i knew where to look.on the reciept it was named as being heater hose. so if you cant find it, that is what to ask for.just so you know what you are looking for, it is shrink wrapped onto a peice of black card.dont be shocked into buying a couple of them when you see it, coz its only about 10inches long but it stretches out, i reckon 1 should be long enough to do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payna Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 ok ive just stretched the hosing out..........me thinks im gonna have to take another trip to halfords! 1 on its own mite be a bit short to reach the mesh at the bottom. 2 of them will do the job i reckon. no more than 2 tho. i promise you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubDub Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 QUOTE(payna)dont be shocked into buying a couple of them when you see it, coz its only about 10inches long but it stretches out, i reckon 1 should be long enough to do the job.LOL you were saying?Did you cut the black one with the BMC down a bit?I aint touched the size of the back one yet and it reaches to just behind the light cluster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 def. improves performace when cool but not convinced when hot - at the moment i think its slowing the car down in hot weather. the issue is the aluminium pipe it just lets heat in to the bmc too easily.i think samco hosing from the bmc right down to the front mesh is the only way to go style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> but will cost about 140 quid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazraz_uk Posted July 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Instead of buying samco hosing for the air feed why dont you just buy some of that exhaust and turbo wrap stuff that keeps things cool and cover the aluminium tubing in that, thats what im gonna look into instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 yeah thats a good method by the sounds, just not sure of the look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 £140? And the rest, l've got Samco on my Viper and the pieces l have for mine (Check readers rides - Poobah) cost £110. So to take it down to the lower vent would cost some serious wedge! Lots of angles and things needed too.Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />but you havent gone down to the vent then? where is your cold air feed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 I connected a piece of flexible ducting to the end of the Samco hosing shown in the pictures as the heat levels in the wing are pretty low and don't really warrant having Samco all the way down to the vent. I see it as more hassle than its worth to take Samco all the way to the lower vent, especially as the returns are minimal in this section of the induction.Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 from below the headlight the heat is pretty similar to outside the car, but if going that far with the samco might as wekk go all the way I thought... but might save money and do the same - where did you get your ducting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 I considered going the whole way down with Samco but if it was going to cost me an extra £100 in hosing for pretty much Zero Bhp gain then l'd rather put the money to a set of cams. Got my hosing from a construction specialist, the hosing you get with most kits is like cardboard and wire and is pretty crap, get some proper flexible ducting made from a polymer/rubber and its much more durable.chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 yes thats my point - it has a huge drop in power when the engine is baking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazraz_uk Posted July 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 QUOTE(tdwindustries)yeah thats a good method by the sounds, just not sure of the lookunless your gonna be going for a show and shine award it doesnt really matter does it? style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> Most of the time the bonnet will be shut so no ones gonna see it and the heat wont be as much of a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 yeah but ... well i dont know - samco does look great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payna Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 iam just gonna try the halfords stuff, i reckon it shouldnt be too bad coz its not in contact with any direct heat from the engine, it would just be used up to the point where the original inake was and then the bmc stuff takes over from there.i dunno... i mite be wrong but its worth a try for only a few quid coz the samco route is a def no, no for me. far to expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdwindustries Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 true the issue is that the BMC is very thin aluminium and just sucks in heat from the engine bay.... quick and easy is to use lagging on it as Poobah said above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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