jthedriva Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I am going to sell my 12 and go for a 15 for some ground shaking bass, but im not quite sure which one of these two to go for -Audiobahn AW1500N Kicker S15L5 Dual 2anyone heard either of them? or got an opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Mate your not going to get 'ground shaking bass' from either of them two.Size isn't everything.TShirt2K would get more output from his Crystal comp 10" than you'd get from either of those two.A 15" sub is too big for a Lupo.Whats the point in fitting a 15 when even a 12" sub is too big to make use of the size of the boot correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 (edited) I dont have first hand experience but i have a friend who has 2 12" kickers, i think they're L7's running off a hefty Vibe amp and they do sound sweet. Another lad i know did have 2 audiobahns, from what ive heard they are a reputable brand but in time he burnt both of his out. Whether it was the way he treated them or just the particular model he bought i dont know.EDITED: You need to consider what kind of music u listen to because a 15" will give very slow base, wont keep up with faster bass. You tend to see people with a 15" will have a couple of 12"s to go with it to pick up wat the 15" cant handle. Edited February 8, 2006 by Frankie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthedriva Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I am going to get a 15, its not about the output, its the wavelength, my 12 is great but i know for a fact 15s travel further, and are less sound and more feeling because of their size. As for mounting it, i have all that sorted style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 i know for a fact 15s travel further, and are less sound and more feeling because of their size. As for mounting it, i have all that sorted style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> come on mate, dont belive the b/s people say.Do you know thats true for a fact, or is it some thing you have heard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthedriva Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I dont have first hand experience but i have a friend who has 2 12" kickers, i think they're L7's running off a hefty Vibe amp and they do sound sweet. Another lad i know did have 2 audiobahns, from what ive heard they are a reputable brand but in time he burnt both of his out. Whether it was the way he treated them or just the particular model he bought i dont know.EDITED: You need to consider what kind of music u listen to because a 15" will give very slow base, wont keep up with faster bass. You tend to see people with a 15" will have a couple of 12"s to go with it to pick up wat the 15" cant handle.I have heard horror stories about lesser models in the audiobahn range....Wasn't too sure if this would be different, and you cant run a 15 with two 12s, sounds awful because all the bass lines over lap, even with excellent crossover set up! 15 and two 8s or 18 and two 10s, imo, but to be honest, i am just after solid bass notes! style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> come on mate, dont belive the b/s people say.Do you know thats true for a fact, or is it some thing you have heard?i know it for a fact because sitting in my car, with the 12 and my mate with the same amp but a 15 next to me, i could hear mine but feel his lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Do some real reserch.Kicker are bad.Audiobahn is a budget brand that advertises as though its high end gear.They sell because people are too stupid to do any reserch for them selfs, and they see the bling, and see them on pimp my ride.How many SQ, SQL or SPL cars do you know of usieng Audiobahn equipment?I dont know any.Even Pro Plus have a SPL car!!!!KickerMin Rec Sealed Box Vol (see you. FT., LITERS): 1.5, 42.5How are you going to fit a 1.5cuft box into the boot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthedriva Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Do some real reserch.Kicker are bad.Audiobahn is a budget brand that advertises as though its high end gear.They sell because people are too stupid to do any reserch for them selfs, and they see the bling, and see them on pimp my ride.How many SQ, SQL or SPL cars do you know of usieng Audiobahn equipment?I dont know any.Even Pro Plus have a SPL car!!!!KickerMin Rec Sealed Box Vol (see you. FT., LITERS): 1.5, 42.5How are you going to fit a 1.5cuft box into the boot?fibreglass the whole spare wheel well and have a raised up false floor (including removing back seats) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 i know it for a fact because sitting in my car, with the 12 and my mate with the same amp but a 15 next to me, i could hear mine but feel his lol Ok, if thats what you want to belive waste you cash, and your box space.I think your mad.Ive hear 8" subs drop lower than most 15" subs.If your box isn't right it wont drop low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthedriva Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 (edited) what 15 do you recommend for my budget then?! Edited February 8, 2006 by jthedriva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 fibreglass the whole spare wheel well and have a raised up false floor (including removing back seats) Good luck then. style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> what 15 do you recommend for my budget then?! I dont recomend any mate.15s are for people who have a massive boot.Stickin a 15" sub into a boot with a 18" deep floor is bonkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthedriva Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 lol if you can get 8 inch subs to drop as low as 15s then why wouldn't people only use 8 inch subs in competition cars? its all about how much air it moves as well as power going throught it, there is a limit to the excursion and the amount of air a sub can move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 (edited) People do use 8" subs in compition cars.My friend is just building a Scooby at the moment, whos owner is having a 15" sub put in the boot, with a OFF switch for normal use, just to be switched on when hes at a cruise/show with the boot open.Hes then having 2 x 8" subs into the front of the car for every day use.The amp on the 2x 8" subs has twice the power as the 15" sub, and being ported the little 8s drop lower than the sealed 15.I know of a lot of SPL cars that use nothing but a wall of 10s.Max (LoudLupo) had 2 x 10" DDs in a 2cuft ported box.That car was so loud, Max Power stand at Trax a couple of years back struggled to do the sound off for all the Corsa (etc) drivers, as his system was over powering theres.Big doesn't always meen beter.If it was me, Id go for a good 10" SPL sub in a large ported box, would be a lot more powerful in 'feel' than one of those 15s in a small sealed box.That Kicker for instance, needs 6cuft to run ported.Thats the siz of 3 x Lupo boots! Edited February 8, 2006 by Tigz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthedriva Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 People do use 8" subs in compition cars.My friend is just building a Scooby at the moment, whos owner is having a 15" sub put in the boot, with a OFF switch for normal use, just to be switched on when hes at a cruise/show with the boot open.Hes then having 2 x 8" subs into the front of the car for every day use.The amp on the 2x 8" subs has twice the power as the 15" sub, and being ported the little 8s drop lower than the sealed 15.why would be be running a 15 if the 8s were enough?!?! I know of a lot of SPL cars that use nothing but a wall of 10s.Max (LoudLupo) had 2 x 10" DDs in a 2cuft ported box.That car was so loud, Max Power stand at Trax a couple of years back struggled to do the sound off for all the Corsa (etc) drivers, as his system was over powering theres.Big doesn't always meen beter.If it was me, Id go for a good 10" SPL sub in a large ported box, would be a lot more powerful in 'feel' than one of those 15s in a small sealed box.That Kicker for instance, needs 6cuft to run ported.Thats the siz of 3 x Lupo boots!Thing is thats subs such as those DDS 10s are expensive if you arent going to do competitions! and ported box's are extremely hard to get perfect.... sounds crap if they arent spot on!ok what sub should i get for under £200 that can handle atleast 700w rms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I've just put the phone down to the kid who disributes the DD range.He said he can do you the subs that Max had for £125 each, they need 300wrms each. (Max gave the pair of his 300rms) or the top range for £250 each and they need £600wrms or 1000wrms for a pair.The box you'd need to fit them would be very easy to build as the design time has already been done.If you copy the box sizes, and port size you cant really go wrong.You'd be supprised just how loud his system was, it 'felt' louder than the 18" DD sub he replaced it with.It obviously wasn't, but they dropped so low, and so fast it used to shock me everytime I got in his car.There are other options, but if I was after a SPL system for the Lupo, they'd be what Id go for.It was silly loud.why would be be running a 15 if the 8s were enough?!?! Because he was putting screens in the boot lid, and a sub and components to go with it.Just for show use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthedriva Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 how big approx would the ported box have to be? (wanted to integrate in into my false floor) and where was that from? around here they want like 250 for the bottom of the range DD subs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I went direct to the supplier.The box that Max used was 2.8cuft by using the spare whel well, and the boot space, with two amps onto the bac of the box, and the subs aiming into the car.Just trying to find a pic or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthedriva Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 just getting into big money thats all, looking at £250 for them and would probably need two if the are only 8s... then still going to have to work out how to make a ported box that size style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 There not 8" they are 10" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthedriva Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Volume # & size of Drivers Port Area & Length Tuning Freq.1.75^ft (1) 10" subwoofer 26.25 sq" vent x 16" long tunes to 40Hzso could do it with one 10, but whats the advantage of this over my single 12? not bothered as much about sq, just spl... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 What model sub do you have now?What amp are you using and what box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthedriva Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 What model sub do you have now?What amp are you using and what box?all cheap is the easy way to put it lol, effective though, magnat 12 inch sub, 600w rms, 1200w peak, a free air one, but using it in a standard universal sealed box, the amp is a loudest.com one, and has more than enough power... (1200w with current wiring kit, but can take more than double that)would it not just be better to put my sub in a ported box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Have you a link to what you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthedriva Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 (edited) Have you a link to what you have?The amplifier Only bought it because i saw a mates one powering two kicker 12s and was impressed, havent for the sub, dont think its made any more...I know it is better than the JBL DVC 12 inch sub i had though Edited February 8, 2006 by jthedriva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigz™ Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Signal/Noise Ratio 99 dBYou know how good an amp is by the crazy claimes they have!A Tru Technology A Class amp costing thousands managers 100db style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />Anyway, cant find the wrms ratings, but less guess (like it looks like they have style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> ) at 300wrms of clean power.The magnet sub I know nothing about.Although my mate is a disributer of Diamond audio, but also signed up (which he regrets) to sell Magnet gear also.I was in his shop yesterday, but never thought to take a look at them.If you can find out what model sub it is, I'll ask him if hes ever ported one, (or even put one in a box if its supposed to be free air?) Theres a saying you'll here a lot of around audio peeps"10% equipment, 90% instalation" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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