Grumpy Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 I have traced water in my passenger footwell to one of the usual culprits being a leak from the speaker. However, I am stumped as to the cause of it. The speakers look totally original and are held in place with 2 rivets (exactly the same of the drivers door). The membrane on the passenger door has 2 small tears around the area where the speaker cable needs to come through - these are however significantly bigger than the drivers door membrane which just has a small slit for the speaker cable. I have taped up the passenger door membrane however the leak hasn't gone away. If you pour water over the passenger door you can see a small trickle of water from the bottom of the speaker which then of course bridges the door seal and seeps into the cabin. The 4 drain holes in the bottom of the door are clear. By way of precaution I have also cleaned out the drain holes behind the scuttle panels. Any ideas please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Door dropped down causing the seal not to close fully? The mk1 Leon’s suffer badly with this but it’s the membrane seal failing. Or maybe the seal itself is naff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 drill the rivets out and break out the bathroom sealant. why do anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted March 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Rich - when I remove the speaker is it likely to be apparent what is causing the leak. Also forgive my ignorance but what am I looking to seal with the bathroom sealant. Finally do I need to use rivets to reattach the speakers to the door or can I use screws. Appreciate your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 I'm pretty sure you're supposed to have four rivets in each speaker to hold them on, mine certainly did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted March 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 There are only 2 rivets holding my speakers in on both doors. I had the check straps replaced om both doors a couple of weeks back and I am therefore pretty sure you have solved the issue for me. I will use some bathroom sealant around the bottom half of the speakers as Rich has suggested and then reattach them with 4 rivets each side. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 I'm pikey and I got caught for using zip ties on a mk4 once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Nothing wrong with cable ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 it works fine if you drill another four holes in when you pop the rivets out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyEunos Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 I recently did exactly as Rich describes on Passat after having to drill out the speaker to replace a faulty window reg. No dramas, can't be seen once the door cards go back ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 i will be doing it again this week on my golf before it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 The car is low mileage and completely stock so I would prefer to use rivets. Does anyone know the size of the original rivets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupogtiboy Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 VW part number is WHT 005 353, 28p each inc vat Says they are 4.8x14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted March 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 That's a great help - thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted March 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Quick update. Speaker pop riveted back in with 4 rivets the correct length (thanks lupogtiboy) and a liberal amount of bathroom silicon (thanks Rich) and hey presto leak fixed. Happy days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 piece of stupid trivia... "pop" is a brand. so when you ask for pop rivets you're asking for a specific brand of rivet. they are called blind rivets someone who sells rivets for a living told me. It's like asking for a hoover instead of a vacuum cleaner. yes i know, mad but true! A most rivetting discussion that was... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 riveting as it is I have a bolt place next door so I am fixed for all my free fastenings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyEunos Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) Jolly good bolt place it is too, they regularly sort me out with big boxes of nuts/bolts/fixings for the price that you'd usually expect to pay for 3 in a zippy pack in Halfrauds Have you sorted out my undertray yet Edited March 28, 2018 by JoeyEunos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 i know exactly where it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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