AlexHardy91 Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 So it hasn't taken me very long to realise that the sdi is great on fuel but isnt what you'd called 'thrilling' to drive. I'm thinking PD conversion once I've gotten my wagon back on the road. Ive seen that a few people have done the conversion but I'm struggling to find any info on mounts and driveshafts. Can anyone help? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) Here are the boring bits: If yours is £30 tax then sell it and get a 1.4 TDI and tune that to within an inch of its life instead. If yours is £30 tax and you convert it your VED will go to £245, if that doesnt bother you or your VED is already that much then carry on. Edited October 7, 2017 by Sausage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 buy a tdi, pd that, don't declare it and pay £30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) You are a very naughty boy Rich. Although that temptation has crossed my mind for my red TDI with its knackered gearbox and vacant engine bay. But i will resist that slippery slope. JDD 02R box, VNT turbo, bigger injectors, 228mm flywheel and clutch etc going in. Edited October 7, 2017 by Sausage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 this is why i got into this game. i went backwards with the Tt and put a 130 in taking the 225 out whilst still insuring it as a 225. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 Eh? What is the point of insuring it as a 225 if it has an undeclared diesel conversion in it. You are paying for no insurance at all apart from not getting pulled on ANPR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 isn't that the only reason we pay for insurance ? trade anyways, doesn't matter what i do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlipFlops Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 Haha it still matters if it's trade insurance as to what you are actually declaring. If your calling them up or using an app and registering the car on your policy as whats on the log book but it's got a different engine, that's still illegal, even with trade insurance. I've had my trade policy for a fair few years, I have to sell a min of 8 vehicles a year. All cars MUST be legally declared, there's no exceptions to a traders policy. If you crash, your in the same boat as everyone else if the details are wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 it was a pd on the logbook by the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexHardy91 Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 On 10/7/2017 at 3:03 PM, Sausage said: Here are the boring bits: If yours is £30 tax then sell it and get a 1.4 TDI and tune that to within an inch of its life instead. If yours is £30 tax and you convert it your VED will go to £245, if that doesnt bother you or your VED is already that much then carry on. On 10/7/2017 at 4:31 PM, Rich said: buy a tdi, pd that, don't declare it and pay £30. I'm not too bothered about declaring to the dvla. I was running an e36 compact with an m52b28 undeclared. Loads of fun but I kept braking it so had to get shot. Just want something to have a laugh down a good B road in again. I'm sure it cant be that difficult to do the swap if I could do the BMW right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslangdon Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 3 hours ago, AlexHardy91 said: I'm not too bothered about declaring to the dvla. I was running an e36 compact with an m52b28 undeclared. Loads of fun but I kept braking it so had to get shot. Just want something to have a laugh down a good B road in again. I'm sure it cant be that difficult to do the swap if I could do the BMW right? if it kept breaking down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 i was going to say that! i have a cheap pd115 for sale, complete and no immob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobieus_uk Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Had to write off a pd engine because I couldnt get a replacment turbo for love or money, the problem with PD engine is getting spares, stick with the normal TDI as suggested as you will find sourcing parts much easier on the plus side the pd engines especially the 1.4 are probably the easiest engine to do a cam belt on as plenty of space and the fuel pump is driven directly by the cam so you dont have to worry about the fuel pump timing Edited October 9, 2017 by Mobieus_uk spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 all pd engine regardless of cylinder have the same timing arrangement. where's the struggle in finding a turbo ? three cylinder one would be way harder to find second hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 If you've updated the new/modded engine number on your reg doc, and it's a vw engine, no-one will ever know what the power or capacity was/is. Mr inspector/insurance assessor will simply look for the engine number if there's any doubt. If it matches the reg doc thats good enough. There is no way of checking engine capacity or power without "expert" forensics or research. "I know someone" who totalled their 600hp mk2 with a supercharged R32 setup (4WD and all), originally registered as a mk2 golf synchro. Papers had the right (new) engine number, and it still said 1549cc or something. Ok, so the viscous coupling was now a haldex unit and the 1.6 was a bit pokier, but it was all still vdub. Had the labels to prove it. Claim went through no problem, even after the police and insurance assessor checked it thoroughly for about 20 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieV Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Anyone ever done a bkd 140 conversion to a lupo 1.7 sdi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Yeah. @battlebus about a year or so ago. He's our resident SDI sleeper conversion expert to 1.7tdi 200hp. Mini pocket rocket in disguise. Outruns all brands gtis too. Not sure the gearbox will last though... rebuild needed every 25k I'd reckon. Total cost about £2.5k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieV Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 I had a company offer to put a 2.0 bkd 140 in my lupo 1.7sdi but original I was going to pd130 it which would probably be best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieV Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Both with six speed gear boxs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Pd140 would be the most interesting as it'd be good to see how they get around the edc16 problem. Ask them about that and report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieV Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 11:22 AM, Rich said: Pd140 would be the most interesting as it'd be good to see how they get around the edc16 problem. Ask them about that and report back. Whats that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battlebus Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 hours ago, JamieV said: Whats that? Bkd or pd140 same unit. I have a bkd in a golf, great engine and loads of tuning potential but larger and heavier than the asz pd130. I have seen a 130 ina few Lupo/arosa and tbh I may end up doing the same. For now my Frankenstein sdi is still going and on same box 📦 😬(touch wood) I regularly top up the gearbox as I have a weep from the selector seal, fairly common issue and I reckon why most boxes fail. still not rolling roaded the pig but really fun when hot hatch boys are left head scratching 😂🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mk2 Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 @battlebus, I reckon you could put together a (complete with all screws and fittings) kit based on your "SDI", with all the bits needed and you'd sell quite a few. i'd buy one... Not sure how the ECU would be done, unless the original ECU (and Immo?) could be sent to an address for chipping then returned while the original owner is doing the physical work. It'd transform a lot of new driver, first car, experiences... Get an old SDI, buy and bolt on the kit and you end up with a sub £3k seriously hot hatch that otherwise looks like a sleeper. Only trouble is most new drivers probably wouldn't be able to handle that awesome power (and torque) to weight and keep crashing everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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