DeanH Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 These can be done without removing the driveshaft/hub right? In my mind it's just a bolt to loosen, crack the ball joint off and replace before refitting? Looking at the replacement there's a torx head on top of the thread as if I have to lock it in place for the nut to tighten. the only way of getting a torx head in there would be to remove the shaft... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 if you're good you won't need the torx bit. it is all in the preparation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanH Posted September 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Rich said: if you're good you won't need the torx bit. it is all in the preparation What do you mean by that? My plan was to clean up the threads and soak it in plusgas beforehand. Anything else I should be doing? I've replaced them before on other cars without the torx fitting. To be honest I think only one side has it on this car, one might have been replaced already. EDIT: Getting it off isn't actually where I envisage a problem, it's more tightening the nut on the new one... Edited September 21, 2017 by DeanH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Get a jack and a block of wood under the ball joint and add pressure to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 massive bar but i am lazy and don't axle stand anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Rich said: massive bar but i am lazy and don't axle stand anymore. That's not something to be proud of, I had a car fall on me in my blasé youth because I got complacent. Got lucky, mainly because i wasnt under the engine. Op as said already just add pressure to the joint with a jack or bar to stop it rotating while doing it up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanH Posted September 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 The nut wasn't an issue but the spindle seems to be seized into the hub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Itl just be corroded on, give it a good thrash with a hammer and it’l come free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 I couldnt easily split mine with a hammer, undid the 3 bolts instead but i was removing knuckles so it didnt matter. If you are replacing joints you can be more aggressive with heat or use a splitting fork as the dust boots getting ruined wont matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanH Posted September 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 I've wedged a 2ft crow bar between the top of the spindle and the bottom of the CV joint and can't lever it out. Bashed the knuckle that surrounds the spindle with said crowbar and a hammer. Soaked it in shock and unlock. No joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Blow torch, try not to ruin cv boot though. Or buy a splitting fork, or else admit defeat (i did as no splitting tools) and remove the whole knuckle (via 3 bolts) and do it in a vice. Drive shaft nut undoes easy with someone pressing the brake if the wheel is off, You need a long tube on your t bar. Edit: What Pete said, you wont lever it out... Edited September 22, 2017 by Sausage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Keep going with bashing the knuckle, you’ll be levering all day, you need the shock of the hammer to scare it free. Swing harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanH Posted September 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Do those splitting forks loosen corroded spindles easily? I'll have to put it all back together to go get one typically so ill probably get it replaced whilst the tracking is being done if not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Penetrating fluid, heat and hammer shocks are all i use, but those bottom joints are very fat in the metal so i think the amount of hammering goes way up as a result. Steering joints comes out in 2 good clouts, those bottom b4stards do not. I dont use splitting forks (i dont have any for starters) as they tend ruin the boots when i used them years ago, but for this I'd be tempted into buying one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 i would be relentless with the hammer to break the taper. hasn't failed me yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanH Posted September 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Im reluctant to use a blowtorch as the CV boot is brand new. The wedge type splitters seem to be more accurate, I'll pick one up and give it a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanH Posted September 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Couple of taps and it came out. Just needs tracking, two tyres and a good clean. Winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslangdon Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 46 minutes ago, DeanH said: Couple of taps and it came out. Just needs tracking, two tyres and a good clean. Winner. That's a fancy splitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Nice one. For comparison it took 6 heavy blows with a hammer to split mine with the knuckle in a vice, that would be tricky to do on the car with the drive shaft in the way and swinging sideways with the hammer while laying on the ground. I think I'll get a fork as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanH Posted September 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Sausage said: Nice one. For comparison it took 6 heavy blows with a hammer to split mine with the knuckle in a vice, that would be tricky to do on the car with the drive shaft in the way and swinging sideways with the hammer while laying on the ground. I think I'll get a fork as well. I've had a similar experience in the past with a spare hub in a vice. Couldn't recommend it enough, I literally only undid the wheel bolts and balljoint bolts. No messing around at all, the whole thing probably took 20 minutes. That's a fancy splitter £7 from euro car parts, not fancy at all! Edited September 23, 2017 by DeanH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj1 Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 For what it's worth, when I did mine recently I took the driveshaft out of the hub so that it would spin all the way around making it easier to get the hammer in. Doesn't really add any time to the job with an impact gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanH Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 8 hours ago, cj1 said: For what it's worth, when I did mine recently I took the driveshaft out of the hub so that it would spin all the way around making it easier to get the hammer in. Doesn't really add any time to the job with an impact gun. Yeah I'd have done the same and stuff k it in a vice if I had a half inch drive torque wrench to match my 12 point socket for the hub nut. I only have a quarter unfortunately and don't have an adapter either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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