agilecanonbal Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Hi all, hoping you all can help. My lupo pulls to the left! replaced both suspension arms and drop links and ball joints, also had the tracking done and yet it still pulls to the left, tyre pressures are all correct any ideas? It's not major but highly irritating after the amount of money I've spent on it. Thanks in advance guys/gals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Hmm you have done all the things i'd suggest. Your tyre rotation is the right way? Is it an uncontrollable swerve to the left like round corners or just the car pulling to one side in a straight line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agilecanonbal Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Tyres are all the right way, just in a straight line it goes left if you release the wheel, also around long left hand bends, it can go around the bend on its own, bloody annoying! Tyres are all the right way, just in a straight line it goes left if you release the wheel, also around long left hand bends, it can go around the bend on its own, bloody annoying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 That is odd. 100% your tracking was done and they could get it back to what it should have been. Camber and toe etc?Maybe get under the car and start prying and wiggling stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Yknow all cars should pull slightly left. How much is it pulling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agilecanonbal Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 It's pulling in an obvious way, not long got back from a drive where I was letting the car go round corners on its own,again not sharp but long bends in the road! It's only funny the first couple of times :/ I've spent nearly £2k on this car,not including the price of the actual car!,it's practically new lol,thinking of selling it now, anyone interested?..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Yknow all cars should pull slightly left. How much is it pullingWhy? Agile il give you £50. Something might be bent on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agilecanonbal Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Lol,will be getting a mechanic to look at it today, if he can't find the problem then I'm stumped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2 Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Yknow all cars should pull slightly left. How much is it pulling Skezza, mine pulls very slightly to the right. When i checked everything, the only thing i noticed was that the ride height on the right front was slightly lower than the other 3 corners (by about 8mm). I measured wheel arch edge to metal wheel rim when parked on level ground (tesco car park!). Don't have coilies, so can't do anything about it. I have also noticed that rubbish tyres cause really wierd handling, like when driving with one side of the car on a white line, really yanks the car sideways. Same tyres all round- and then only michellins, firestones (OEM) or goodyears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agilecanonbal Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 The muppets who tracked it last time tracked it with the steering wheel of centre! Barstewards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Why? Agile il give you £50. Something might be bent on it. simple. The roads are raised slightly to the middle. This aids drainage and prevents excessive weather wear I.e. A build up of water which freezes and subsequently causes pot holes. Drive in the right hand lane of a dual carriageway and the same rules apply pulling ever so slightly right. It's not severe and it shouldn't be enough to pull you round a bend but it should be noticeable. Of course, old and worn suspension dips and this might cause you to pull to the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 The muppets who tracked it last time tracked it with the steering wheel of centre! BarstewardsSo I was right! That it fixed?100% your tracking was done and they could get it back to what it should have been. Camber and toe etcHmm didn't realise that. None of my cars really do that but yes the road is cambered. As mk2 said some cars tramline to but not always with cheap tyres. Sometimes wide tyres or certain tread designs like directional ones seem to be more prone to tramline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agilecanonbal Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) Gotta say, although better,its not cured!hold the wheel straight and it goes straight, but let go of the wheel and it starts doing the pulling to the left thing again,not as bad but its still there,tried driving on the opposite side of the road and still there.So...both wishbones/control arms,both drop links,both ball joints and 3 sets of tracking and its still there, so thinking now, strut mounts or engine mounts wearing! Possible brake bind but wheels was spinning freely on the ramps, taking it to the garage again tomorrow and leaving it there, they'll give me a call if they can find anything. Doing a search online and it seems to be a very common problem on polo's and lupo's, even reviews on brand new cars! Allot of feedback from vw is that it's a design built into the cars so if the driver falls asleep the car won't vear into oncoming traffic! I think that's a load of bull! As the car was not too long ago alright!also worth mentioning that discs and pads all round have been changed. Will wait and see......thanks for you advice so far gents Edited March 2, 2015 by agilecanonbal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver! Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 So you were holding the wheel central and expecting the car to go in a straight line?That's not pulling to the left, but driving to the left. Let the wheel go loose in your hands and see what happens.Some retard mechanics don't know how to do tracking correctly and take up all the adjustment on one side; hence off centre steering wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agilecanonbal Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Been to the garage, brakes are fine and not binding, tyre wear is all alright, they reckon it's suspension related, as I have joms in the car they recomend a suspension specialist to have them correctly setup!simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Oh.... Joms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Swap your front tyres and see if it drifts to the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver! Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 A specialist set up will likely cost you more then the JOMS themselves.Just make them all as low as they'll go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agilecanonbal Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Measured the arch gaps and had a fiddle....then adjusted the the heights to be as equal as possible, cars much better now would love to lower as low as can go but there's some serious amounts of speed bumps around here, already scraping sometimes,i hate speed bumps! As always you guys have been most helpful ☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 So you were holding the wheel central and expecting the car to go in a straight line?That's not pulling to the left, but driving to the left. Let the wheel go loose in your hands and see what happens.Some retard mechanics don't know how to do tracking correctly and take up all the adjustment on one side; hence off centre steering wheel.Very true. Idiot who did mine put my left wheel on like -3.5 degrees and the other on like 0 he said it evens out. I'm like yeah not giving you any of my business again. Now it's within factory spec. Are these joms etc good. People seem to pay sub £200 for these kits and have a lot of problems that come with extreme lowering. I don't get it but I'm old. A 40 or 60mm drop is more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver! Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Style over substance I think is the case with most budget coilovers kits, but then expensive suspension would be wasted sitting outside MacD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agilecanonbal Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Joms are cool, lots of people use them, and for the price they're good, just make sure you measure everything up corectly when fitting....or double check they've been done correctly if someone else has fitted them!! My lupo is just over 70mm lower and rides good, can't go lower as said because of the amount of speed bumps around here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Very true. Idiot who did mine put my left wheel on like -3.5 degrees and the other on like 0 he said it evens out. I'm like yeah not giving you any of my business again. Now it's within factory spec. Are these joms etc good. People seem to pay sub £200 for these kits and have a lot of problems that come with extreme lowering. I don't get it but I'm old. A 40 or 60mm drop is more than enough.They're cheap coilies, so they're everything you expect. Harsh ride, and make your car handle like ****. Still, that isn't why people fit them and for the lowered look they're ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agilecanonbal Posted March 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) Right, think I've got to the bottom of it! Finally after everything else, I changed the wheels over.....the car now pulls to the right! Think it was Pete who advised it, and wish I tried it sooner! But will get new tyres tomorrow, and fingers crossed, it finally gets solved!will keep you updated.as for joms, granted they're budget Coilies, but it seems to be people who slam their cars who complain of a harsh ride, I tried mine a lot higher and they were alright, and the lower I whent the harsher the ride, which again granted, it's the fundamental reason people buy them, but on a budget they aren't too bad, and safer than cut springs! I got them because of the state of the original suspension when I first got the car,which was quite interesting on the motorway! One day I may be able to afford better ☺Can't thank you all enough for your help, you've all been welcoming.? Edited March 3, 2015 by agilecanonbal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skezza Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 You can't cut springs on VW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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